The Wolf AND The Shepherd discuss their predictions of the 2020 election in the United States. Most likely we will be wrong as we normally are
welcome to this episode of the wolf and
the shepherd today we're going to be
talking about election day i mean with
election day upon us and we're going to
release this podcast before election day
because we're going to make some
predictions and everything and then once
the election happens
we're gonna see how close we got so
there's gonna be some predictions but
we're also gonna talk about you know all
things election
we're gonna try our best not to be too
partisan with this
uh kind of keep you guessing as far as
who we're voting for if if we're voting
uh you know you could leave it at that
too whether or not we
actually voted but i'm pretty sure
you're gonna
drill into me here in a little bit and
ask me if i voted so
i'm probably gonna give that up so
take it away well you know i've been
using the last few podcasts we've done
as an opportunity to sing
um a good alternative song
i heard a few years ago was every day is
election day and it was
kind of a radio-headed um type
sound to it so every day is election day
yeah you're scaring it you're scaring
away listeners again you're singing
yeah well i'm i'm trusting on a lot of
them being tone deaf to be honest with
you
i was actually trying to uh implore
those people because i've gone on a few
of the forums and tried to
actually bring up followers get more
followers from the tone death audience
because when we do actually release that
offset of the podcast the wolf and the
shepherds sing the classics
that's going to be our audience oh i
i'm not sure i'm looking forward to that
but yeah well
it's going to be interesting well i mean
we're going to appear on the america's
got no talent show so
yes yeah but um that title the reason i
actually mentioned that other than
trying to get an excuse to just sing was
in reality every day is election day in
terms of what the politicians put before
us and how we react to
what is done i mean people don't just
48 hours before an election decide who
to vote for i mean it's the previous
kind of four years
which really sets the trail for how
people
i don't think too many people shift i
mean obviously there is a percentage of
people who cross the aisle
right i think that song every day is
election day
although it's not technically true is
absolutely true
in terms of the influence that
politicians decisions do make upon us
well it should be we we should be
looking at what the politicians are
supposedly doing for us what they
actually do for us
and that as americans
that's our only chance to kind of sound
our voice off
a shepherd what have the romans ever
done for us
irrigation sanitation nothing nothing
yeah you know gondolas sorry we're just
giving a shout out to our monty python
fans
yeah that's kind of a reach but
but now now i see where you're going
with that
but um in in texas actually by today
uh and we're october the 30th today
and tomorrow um you actually won't hear
because i think it's a late no actually
you did hear it in
our first halloween special that
tomorrow halloween is your birthday so
it is tomorrow is my so election day is
kind of overshadowed by your birthday
but by today
more than 9 million people have voted in
texas which is
more than the entire of the 2016
election
wow so so the early voting which
early voting is big in texas uh
most people vote early but you still
have
those die hards that want to vote on
election day
that that's kind of their thing yeah and
election day
is of course tuesday so
more people have voted early than
actually
voted in total for the 2016 election
that's crazy to think about
but if you if you stop and think about
uh the kind of
push that has been on voting in this
election i
i haven't seen one i don't think in
any election whatsoever with you go on
facebook and they say have you
registered to vote have you voted
uh it's all over the place it's vote
vote vote
it's really being forced down our
throats this election cycle yeah
and um so far actually in the whole of
the united states
just under 85 million have already voted
so far which
wow and um the estimates that most of
those people are actually alive as well
so i think we might have
actually you know relatively fair
election in that
now did you vote already i have i voted
uh not this past saturday but saturday
before
no uh by mail or did you actually go to
the polling station
no i i went to a uh election place
i was in and out in less than 10 minutes
uh there was lots your wife said that
was a record by the way yeah
yeah yeah uh that yeah that that
that was definitely a record it it's
usually a lot less than that
but you know but but this time i did
last
10 minutes yeah and uh went in and
was able to fill out my little form get
uh everything was done on a computer and
then it printed out a piece of paper
i looked at the piece of paper to verify
that what i punched into the computer
was actually what i voted for and
slipped that into
another computer and walked out and
like said in and out less than 10
minutes one bad
yeah my dog actually got um through the
uh an option to do a mail-in vote
now she's 15 but she's also ginger so i
actually suppressed her vote and ripped
it up because i don't want jinger's
voting in this election yeah
well not only that but i mean in dog
years it
it let's look at it this way so
so you got to be in the united states
you got to be 18 to vote right
and used to be 21 then it lowered to 18.
should we put a maximum
age on voting that's
actually a very good question because
actually um
in some countries when you have your
driver's license when you get to a
certain age you have to retake your test
to prove
that you can still actually drive
effectively on the road and you're not a
danger to people
so i mean that might be a good thing and
this is one of the reasons why i'm
against lowering the age to 16 because
when you've got kids who are
eating tide pods and dancing on
tick-tock i'm not necessarily sure those
are the best people who should be
making fiscal and foreign
you know policies for the country sure
it and then on that flip side
at certain ages like you say
if you have to retest for your driver's
license if you have to re-test for all
this
it should there be a maximum cutoff age
i mean that
that's something that's never really
discussed but
if you take someone that is kind of up
there in age and they're making a
decision
that it's going to affect the rest of
the country
but maybe they're only going to live
maybe
you know three to six months we're
talking about a decision the last two
four six years right so it should there
be at some point that we have a maximum
age
before you know you lose your right to
vote i don't know
because i'm actually against people
voting if it's
been within 12 months of the divorce
because i don't think you can make
rational decisions yeah no that's true
yeah uh
there probably should be some questions
you you probably should have to pass
a hybrid iq test maybe a u.s history
test or whatever before you click the
button but
i digress we don't want to get down into
that but
i know some people listening they're
probably thinking the same thing yeah or
maybe
they've never thought about it that way
and said well hey
maybe maybe that is smart i mean we
using your driving example we don't just
pass out driver's license because you
can
buy a car and you can get behind the
wheel and drive it
you have to prove the fact that you can
actually drive that car and you know
what the laws are
so well i mean you and i are actually
very in favor of voter suppression but
not based upon race or religion or
political affiliation
correct it's mainly based about um what
you watch on tv
and kind of what music you listen to and
that type of stuff i think
if you listen to nickelback you you
should probably be treated like a felon
and maybe not have the vote
yeah maybe it should be a felony to
actually
like nickelback i wonder if we could
squeeze that through congress
well i didn't know who gets in well but
we might be but if we
lobbying power maybe maybe we turn the
podcast into a lobby
and that's the lobby that we make it
illegal
in a felony to listen to nickel back
that way
people that listen to nickelback lose
the right to vote
yeah new mission uh that that's our new
mission statement but we
we still have mantis shrimp that we got
to take care of i mean
for as lazy as we are we've got all
these responsibilities now that are
piling up
and uh we both know we're not to get any
of them taken care of no
because we don't care enough yeah well
and we're too lazy to even put these
things on the list
right yeah um now do you
ever vote in local elections i don't
actually know anybody
personally who votes in local elections
but when we drive
in our area here in north tarrant county
in north texas
there are constantly on almost every
corner
all these signs vote for this person for
this this person for this and yet i
don't know anybody who actually votes in
local elections
i don't uh i
i see some of the election returns with
the local elections and i'm saying
okay well there were a total of 300 and
some votes
which is crazy that you know if it's
160 versus 140
and some dude wins off 20 votes that
goes back to
the fact that you know every vote counts
yeah so when
something like that yeah every vote
counts because there's such a
low turnout with that and of course
there's always that look
of the uh what are they called the
off-year elections you know when there's
not
a president running and you have the
midterm elections right
you know every every two years every
every two years that the voter turnout
is so much lower but then
like you say with the local elections
it's even
lower than that yeah because people just
don't want to take the time out to
you know cast their vote well i think i
think it's actually like watching an
elementary school
basketball game you know you go watch
those things and the score ends up like
11 to six right or something like that i
literally think a lot of the local
elections
and we're actually more in texas a
little bit more inclined to vote i think
we value the freedom to vote
sure a bit more than some other states
but even in texas local elections
traditionally have a lot of you know
kind of kind of low
turnout and stuff and it gets to that
point of apathy i guess that because it
doesn't really you ever get seen really
affect us because
i i guess maybe in north texas unlike
again like some other states
that regardless of who gets in it really
doesn't change much
right i i don't want to put too much
time and effort
into figuring out who the railroad
commissioner should be right
because number one i don't even know
what a railroad commissioner
does i know the trains go by and i gotta
stop and i gotta wait for a train
but uh what is that railroad
commissioner doing that
what does the county comp troller do
uh what about the tax assessor collector
and
you're electing these people and
i i try to consider myself somebody that
kind of knows
a little bit about that stuff but i
don't have a clue i mean
does it really matter who the tax
assessor collector is maybe it does
maybe it doesn't
my taxes aren't going to change
depending on who i write my check
for my tags on my car or whatever
right i quite honestly don't care and i
think most people
just they don't care nobody cares i
didn't even know you could vote for a
railroad commissioner i'm pretty sure
you can well well the thing is
obviously we didn't research that we
actually have a lot of followers here in
texas
especially pretty close to where we live
and
if they actually did a way with
railroads abolish them completely
most the people here where we live would
be pretty happy because then we could
avoid the keller train which
slows down any journey by about 10
minutes it does yeah
there is nothing 140 carriages yep
yeah nothing worse than trying to cross
the railroad tracks because you're
hungry or or you're
late for something and then ding ding
ding ding ding
you got to wear that train yeah but the
good thing is i mean
you know people say don't text and drive
don't dial and drive all this stuff but
when that train comes by
you can pretty much catch up on
everything on your phone
and plus start browsing through absolute
crap because that phone
sorry that train takes so long no that
that is true
and of course i i grew up in a house
that was
right by the train tracks i mean not
like against the train tracks or
anything but
it was about a quarter of a mile away
from the train
and i also learned by
watching my dad as he drove of how to
gauge
you know whether or not you could outrun
the train and try to get across the
tracks
and of course now that i have a daughter
driving age
i've done it a couple of times makes her
nervous makes the wife nervous but i
also said
you know do as i say not what i do i've
been doing this for over 20 years i know
how to race the train and i know when to
go across
and and just don't do it now this is off
a little bit of a tangent
for a minute but you know i love your
kids
but i look at your daughter and even
just looking at that i think she
shouldn't be allowed to drive but
sure your favorite story you ever told
me about
driving with your dad rather sorry
rather when
when your dad was driving one time he
turned down the radio
and told you probably the most
influential
piece of advice about the opposite sex
that you've ever received
and left it at that can you tell us that
story okay
so so i'm driving with
my dad i'm gonna say i'm
12 13 somewhere around in there yeah i
honestly
don't remember the age but i remember
the day
just plain as anything and
uh radio's on and i'm sitting in the
front seat of the truck he's driving
along
and the radio's going all of a sudden
he just reaches up to the radio and hits
the volume button and
turns it down and he says max
i need to tell you something and it's
very important
i said okay he said i i've tried my best
as a father to to teach you
you know how to be a man how to live
your life and
and all this good stuff and and maybe
you've listened to everything maybe you
haven't but i
really need you to pay attention to the
next words i'm gonna say
because it's very important it's
extremely important for you to
understand this
so are you paying attention i said yeah
yeah dad i'm i'm
paying attention he took a deep breath
and he looked at me
and he said women are nuts
and then he turned the radio back up and
didn't say a word after that now the
great thing about this story is this is
before the age of cell phones so it
wasn't like you just received a text
from your mom which is crazy
yeah and just kind of like oh yeah this
was a well thought out opinion
yes you've probably been waiting like
two years to tell you this i i i
couldn't tell you
where we were going i couldn't tell you
what happened before that
it was it was just one of those moments
and i i will never forget that moment
and never forget that moment now
actually here in texas we've
got 17 million registered voters and in
the united states as a whole i think
there's
close to about 240 million adults who
are eligible to vote
but only about 157 or 158
whatever it was are actually registered
to vote so i mean that's like you know
close to you know 80 million people just
don't even bother to register to vote
why do you think that apathy is
well i think it's one of those
things that people look at and they say
what's really in it for me
you know i've got to fill out another
form
to be able to go and vote and does my
vote even matter
but at the same time we were always
taught
years ago that jury duty
is picked from voter registration so
there might be people that say you know
i don't care to vote i don't think my
vote counts and the last thing i want to
do
is be picked for jury duty so
it's it's not worth me registering to
vote because
i don't want to be on jury duty oh my
goodness the the
types of excuses i've come up with for
avoiding jury duty i don't want to go on
onto them on here because of legal
issues but
i've come up with some good excuses for
not having to go on curious i mean
jury duty is yeah
i've had several people that have always
told me you know
they want to sit on a jury and all that
i've been called to jury duty twice i
never got selected
one time they just ran out of cases so
they dismissed everybody
i went into a courtroom one time i was
number seven or eight i'm thinking i'm
gonna get picked for this and this was
back in the days when i was in insurance
and it turned out to be an
insurance lawsuit and when i filled out
the paperwork
they said uh no no that's okay sir you
can sit down
and i thought oh okay well this is an
insurance case so i got out of that
well well i think they were lucky enough
to not have to serve on a jury
well i think once i actually came up
with the excuse
that i had aids i was on experimental
drugs and not of sound
mind to actually choose my own dinner
so that kind of got me out of it i think
it's something along those lines i mean
it really was
i will tell you that uh the day
that i got dismissed because they
ran out of cases i was sitting in the
jury room
and a woman came in with a baby carriage
and had a dog in the baby carriage and i
thought
she's crazy or brilliant i
should have got a baby carriage and
brought my dog along because
who in the world would want a woman or
a man woman doesn't matter gender
on that one who would want a person
sitting on a jury that brought a dog
with them to jury duty and then a dog
in a baby carriage right i think it was
brilliant i think
she was prob she probably won the nobel
prize
the next year well they i think she was
brilliant well if it was an open and
shut case like the
person was obviously guilty or obviously
innocent i would actually
love as the prosecution to actually
choose her
just to see what she has to say yeah
yeah
you got to run with that point but you
know voter turnout in the last election
you know 2016 was that
at a 20-year low so i mean like a 5-5
election cycle
um but ironically swipe of the fox from
door there
dora the explorer was blamed ahead
of apathy by hillary clinton as to
why she didn't uh get you know
get the job basically now what do you
think has changed in 2020
to basically counter this apathy and why
we have
so many people voting and i mean even
early i mean before we get to november
the third
we're gonna bypass how many people voted
in total in the last election
well i i think it's twofold number one
dora's off the air now
so swipers well they're not
making any new door episodes really as
far as i know he's serious
i think so so so swiper
has no influence on the american
election process so i love swag
i guess that's probably good but i love
him the second thing is in in this
age of cove ding ding ding that we're in
people are bored and so
there's nowhere for them to go so like
well i don't have
anything to do i might as well actually
go vote
that that will give me something to do
that
in texas we have stuff to do still
you know restaurants are open bars are
open and things like that
i mean limited capacity and you still
got to wear a mask and all that
mess but there's a lot of places that
you know there's nothing to do but you
can go vote
so most people you know they're they're
sitting there
and guys talking to his wife like oh
what are we going to do tonight and the
wife says well i don't know what do you
want to do well i don't know
at least now with such limited options
it's like well you know we can actually
go vote we can get out of the house and
go vote that gives us something to do
right and maybe that has some kind of
contributing factor
to why there's such a big voter turnout
because
people are bored yeah now going back to
swiper which we probably shouldn't
um yeah we probably shouldn't yeah
yeah as you know my son has autism and
is mostly non-verbal
but one of the first phrases he learned
from watching dora the explorer
and watching swiper was oh man so
anytime
anything goes wrong or he gets caught
out something he shouldn't be doing
something he's still to this day is like
oh
man yeah it well not only that but then
espn stole that because they had to
come on man i always thought they stole
that from swiper
yeah i mean it and ironically because
swiper supposed to be the thief
and then they stole something from
swiper yeah in in
i thought yeah ironic yeah but you know
it
at least with swiper it was easy to stop
him because all you had to say is swipe
for no swiping yeah swipe or no swiping
swiping i wish we could stop
thieves that way yeah you know like we
were talking about earlier
uh we talked about robots before and
there was an article in
ap this uh today about
a lawn mowing robot that was trying to
get stolen
and it sent a text message to its owner
could the robot have just say you know
swipe or no swiping
and then the thief put it down yeah it
would be nice to
to be able to have thieves stop that way
yeah ironically
he is one of the few immigrants who has
been allowed to get away with multiple
offenses without being put in jail he
gets instant
race he gets instant grace he does now
on the subject of stealing uh this leads
us
into a great segue actually about
election stealing through
various methods and again this is not
partisan one way or the other
but you know do you think it's fair that
social media
has the ability to be able to suppress
news that doesn't like especially on
political issues
i do i i totally agree with them
uh i think they should be able to
you know squelch whatever they want to
squelch because
it's it's their own deal right
they get to set the rules you're just a
user
right so if you don't like the rules
then stop using it
don't don't complain about it don't get
them to change the rules
it's kind of like i've said with the in
the age cove
ding ding ding that we're in
i can choose not to do business with the
store
that requires me to wear a mask when
nobody's in the store and i still have
to put on a mask
that's that's my choice to walk into
that store
right and same with social media it's my
choice to have an account on social
media
and post what i think i want to post
what i think is free speech to
let everybody hear but
it should be their choice to
determine whether or not they allow me
to say what i want to say do what i want
to do
post what i want to post put a picture
up of whatever i
want to do i think it's totally their
choice
most people though will not walk away
from it
they're so addicted to it it's kind of
like drugs they
they're still addicted to drugs
they made that choice to
use a drug and stick with that drug
so it's not the drug's fault it's the
person's fault to make that choice
well well i think where the problem
comes in is that
people treat social media as almost like
a solid news base nowadays so what they
read on social media well
not only do they do that but they almost
treat it as a right
right they almost treat it as a right
that they should be able to be on social
media
as a right and it's not a writing can
you choose can you choose a different
word because like when you say right and
i agree with you normally i say right
but now it just sounds like there's an
echo in the room
oh no okay okay
but my point is that i think
you know we know there's an absolute
lack of fact checking when people read
news
from anything whether it be cnn
fox and you know both both
matter yeah i mean both platforms both
platforms
kind of pander to their base and it's
not good to watch cnn all the time it's
not good to watch fox all the time
because
you get in this polarized mindset where
you
start believing you know you get this
confirmation bias
and if there's anything you hear from
anybody else whether it be on social
media or anything else
you get this you know cognitive
dissonance
where you stick your head in the sound
and you don't want to hear it but on
social media
i think people are still or rather the
majority of people are still
very naive that they believe just like
we always joke about everything on the
internet is true they believe that
everything on social media is true
but then you have people specifically
with you know like facebook and twitter
where they have an
obvious political bias and they get in
these fact checkers on other people's
behalf the users behalf
who are still on that side of the
partisan fence
and so it's like oh well i don't need to
check this because somebody else has
fact checked it
but there's so much bias with it it ends
up misleading people so do you think
that
perhaps all political speech on those
type of platforms so it doesn't mislead
people should be banned
just simply because of that effect
because there are too many people who
are
influenced by what we want to call fake
news where they won't fact-check it but
if somebody says
i fact-checked it they believe them well
i
think that boils down to kind of our
continuous
mantra in our podcast that we
don't do that much research we talk
about what's
in our minds i think
we are actually
researching stuff a little bit deeper
than your general person they
they don't want to take the time to look
anything up they want
somebody to tell them what's happening
what to think what to feel and
they don't have the time for it because
they're worried about paying the rent
they're worried about putting food on
the table so they need somebody
to tell them what they're supposed to
believe
what they're supposed to think and
unfortunately with all of the and you
know
not to just keep down on social media
but with all the social media
it's so easy now to put your voice out
there because
even with podcasts right i mean we
talked about this before
we started this podcast we loved doing
the podcast and all that but
we couldn't have done this 30 years ago
because you'd had to have a radio
station behind you you would have had to
have
producers in the contract and they could
kind of control you
and all that and now you have all this
free
speech out there but you have zero
filter
right and we relied on people to say
well you have to be your own filter
because there's so much going on out
there
and so much being said out there
and nobody really knows how to filter it
and so like we joked about like you
brought up before with the if it's on
the internet it's true
once something's put into print which is
the internet or put into a video
you know you you put a dude up there
with a suit and tie
on and he makes a minute and a half
video
it's pretty convincing because you're
like oh okay well that person's dressed
nice he's got a nice background he looks
like a
newscaster i'm going to believe what he
says
yeah most people do that yeah sad
but most people do it now i i know we
don't like to go off topic
on our podcasts we never like going no
we don't we don't but i just never do it
i just got
yet another text thrill on my watch
from the boy scouts of america or rather
the whoever's in charge of the class
action lawsuit
uh asking if i was abused while being in
the boy scouts of america
i just want to put it out there right
now i was never a member of the boy
scouts of america
and i was never abused to stop texting
me now
quick shift do you think honestly
foreign actors
like russia and china
really have that much influence if they
spend millions of dollars
buying ads on social media
you know giving negative or positive
views towards candidates that it really
affects that many people i know we
talked about
yeah people believe what they read but
that's normally from the friends and
what the friends post article but when
you see a random banner thing do you
really think it has that much effect on
people's voting
i don't think so i i think that
people inherently already believe
what they're going to believe and it's
very hard especially in a political
atmosphere to change their mind right
most people
get pretty dug in
on their political beliefs and it's very
hard to change their mind
and you can have hundreds or
thousands of articles trying to change
people's minds on their political
beliefs their
political ideologies you're not going to
change their mind
right i think some of the
you know the facebooks and in the
twitters or whatever
encourage that because it's a
money-making machine
so so why not i mean if i own twitter i
would want all that money coming in
i i wouldn't care i don't i don't think
they care
they they look at it as a revenue stream
yeah
now um we spoke about this earlier
because we were both listening to our
buddy joe rogan's podcast earlier with
kanye on there
and he's running you know as an
independent
yeah and not not really a third party
because i don't think he identifies with
any particular party
i don't know and of course we didn't do
the research on
whether or not he has a party yet right
look
the deal with kanye that i'm looking at
is
kind of like uh what was the guy's name
gary johnson that ran
back in 2016 uh too early
i think kanye was too early
uh you know he he went out there he was
a trump supporter he was wearing a maga
hat
and all that and then
all of a sudden decided well let me go
ahead and run for president
once again i think too early i think
kanye actually would have a decent
chance of
winning just like trump did in 2016
when everybody voted for him saying you
know i'm sick of the way
politicians are so let's try something
different
look i'm going to be honest with you if
i'm i've already voted and i'm not going
to tell you who i voted for but i will
tell you i didn't
vote for kanye not because
i wouldn't vote for him because if he
runs in 2024
be honest i'm going to vote for kanye
well he's not actually on the ticket
here
right this is he registered to like no
but but see that's my point yeah
i didn't vote for kanye because i would
have to click the button
and actually write him in yeah and that
takes
like 10 seconds and that was too
much work yeah so that's why i say
kanye man it was it was too early
you got to get it organized a little
better i think you got a chance in 2024
you're a young man yeah you know we we
got two
uh and we obviously we have more than
two candidates running for president but
the the two main parties they're they're
older guys
you're a young man you got a lot of life
ahead of you
dude just give it up for this one
learn from the mistakes and run in 2024
and maybe shock the country well we've
obviously come to that time where it's
asked the shepherd the how many do you
think
type question how many people do
so once again here here's one of those
stump the shepherd and you always stump
the shepherd
so so the question again is i talked
over you sorry
that's okay the question again is how
many people do you think are currently
on the ticket across the nation right
for president officially yeah
eight i actually don't know the answer
because like normal
when i ask you these questions if you
get close i just changed the answer just
knowing full well you're not going to
bother looking up to see whether i'm
telling the trees or not of course
but with them i mean given it's 2020 and
2020 has not just thrown us one curve
ball it's like a curveball every month
i think it would actually be quite funny
if kanye
won in some respects because 2020 can't
get any weirder plus
i really love his album graduation and i
think he deserves at least 20 million
votes just for that
yeah i mean once again i i think if the
dude
would have done it right and made sure
he got on all the ballots and all that
it would have been shocking i i think he
would have done
better than gary johnson did in 2016.
right and gary johnson didn't
really get that many votes but
if you dig into the numbers it was
actually pretty respectable
yeah what he was able to do um
talking about people running for
president we would have joe jorgensen
who is the libertarian candidate a lot
of people don't know who she is
joe is that honestly her first name yeah
j.o well that's probably what throws it
off
yeah and yeah yeah so you have two
different joes
right yeah but uh you know i kind of
feel bad for her because
i haven't of course done any research on
her
whatsoever and what her platform is of
course i know what the libertarian
platform
stands for but if you
if you took a hundred people in a room
six foot apart in the uh jacobid that
we're in right now ding ding ding
you would probably have three of them
that have even heard the name joe
jorgensen right
so maybe after this 2020 election
some things kind of bust loose
you never know you never know i mean i
mean i think um
you know last election it happened
and this election even more so that a
lot of
hollywood celebrities sports stars have
weighed in with their opinion
feeling that you know because they're
famous their opinion should somehow
carry more weight
and you know they they talk about you
know who you should vote for and they
took on issues which they're really not
you know that educated to talk about i
think you know as ricky gervais said at
the
uh grammys earlier on in this year that
you know most um hollywood stars and
stuff have spent less time in
school than greta thurber you know so
that they're not in a position
to kind of lecture or educate anybody
but the problem is you have people who
like
a band or like an actor or an actress
and you know i mean i think you know
taylor swift is a famous example of
whoever she gives her um
approval of endorses it's like it's a
kiss of death
you know i mean they lose they lose
heavily but
you know i mean i even the even the
celebrities and actors i like
i don't give a crap about their
political beliefs i don't really want to
listen
to them lecture me on anything i like
them because of how well they act
or if they're a singer however he's
singing or if they're a sports now how
well they perform
i know that you know compared to the
person who lives next door who's
moved out she got divorced so maybe not
her maybe the one the other side of us
um you know their opinion is not worth
any more than theirs just because
they're famous and they make a lot of
money for you know being able to dribble
a ball
or you know fake a persona on movie it
doesn't make any difference to me but
there are a lot of people who are
affected by that
yeah and the one band that comes to mind
immediately with this topic is rage
against the machine
right love their music uh growing up
you know a teenager in the 90s
rage against the machine was one of my
favorite bands loved their music
i would sing along to those songs
not even thinking about what i was
singing along to
then i started drooling into some of the
things they were saying i'm like huh i
don't agree with that
and oh wait i do agree with this but
i like them for their music not for
their political statement
yeah if you were
a little bit older you know say maybe in
your
mid-20s or something like that and
could actually understand what they were
trying to project
you were kind of a fool if you said you
liked them and
followed everything that they said
based off the message they were trying
to
portray i liked him for their music that
was it
look i'm a george clooney fan uh i don't
agree
so much with his politics right but i
will tell you yeah you know what
i like him in movies and because i
disagree with george clooney on some of
the things that he
talks about politically doesn't mean i'm
going to stop
watching his movies because guess what
george clooney
great actor yeah i think he's he's a
great actor there
i haven't seen all his movies but
everyone that i've seen that he's in
i've liked and because he tells me
that you know he has this political
belief
i'm gonna say okay well we can agree to
disagree on that because i really don't
care what you think about that
politically
i care about you making good movies sure
exactly
and um you know i want to move into the
prediction
part of the election so so the the
reason why we did this podcast
is for our predictions
what is going to happen after election
day
well i think i mean we probably might
be the some of the worst people to make
a prediction because
now we are the worst people because
because let's be honest if the lottery
was based upon there's only three
numbers between one and three
and you had to choose the number between
one and three and the number which
kind of gets out you win and we bought
ten tickets
we probably still wouldn't win the
lottery oh there's no problem
no champs would win because we'd put it
all on one number yeah we would
try and like whatever that number is we
wouldn't we wouldn't even
think about the fact that oh there's
only three let's say
our bets now we'll put it all on one
number yeah yeah we don't yes
yeah so please don't um go out
and either online or wherever kind of
place any bets based upon what we're
saying
so there has been a lot of people saying
and
and from the left and the right across
various news networks
that regardless who wins we're gonna get
in a mini scale
civil war or whoever wins just because
of the
i guessed untrust of the process or
their dissatisfaction of the eventual
victor there is going to be a mini scale
civil war and i mean i know we've had a
mini scale civil war maybe for the last
you know six seven months in certain
states but that it will actually be you
know
nationwide i'm going to say
yes uh i think there will be
no matter who wins uh i think there will
be
more writing writing has now become
commonplace
and especially with everybody kind of
holed up and
they say oh there's a protest here
there's protests there it's something
for us to do
yeah yeah you're going to see and i like
that
mini scale civil war uh you it's going
to go
beyond some of the protests that we've
had
for the other causes there will be
protests no matter
which side wins that there will be
there will be a specific amount of time
that people are going to get out there
and protest so yes uh
my prediction no matter who wins yes
protests we'll call it a mini civil war
yes
that's going to happen yeah now two
things without um
number one again this is not remotely
related but i just saw the uh
lady who is in the the office
next to our studio just come back with a
bunch of food and she didn't bring us
anything back so i wanna
well that's typical well right yeah and
um the second thing is uh
you know i'm not in favor of looting but
but but i've got a really cheap
laptop and i'm kind of figuring if this
thing kind of gains a lot of momentum i
might
just get involved for one night and try
and get myself an alienware laptop or a
dell gaming system just just for a
one-off i don't want to get feed
i don't want to get food to feed the
family i just want to get
a laptop if if you look at it that way
then you realize that sony and microsoft
have realized there will be some form of
mini civil war because
i would go out and get me a new xbox
but they decided to delay that
until much past the election and they're
hiding behind the fact that it's a
christmas thing
but i'm with you if if we're all going
to go out and we're going to steal
something
then i'm going to get me a new xbox yeah
and instead of like we
talked about before you know maybe we're
gonna wait until after the first of the
year
after you know the day ones are out uh
if if i knew i could just run down
because everybody's bashing in
some store i'd probably snag me an xbox
right
why not yeah now did you did you
actually know
that part of the
solution for the reduction of crime in
new york what particularly manhattan and
you know the other boroughs
during the late 70s and during the 80s
was actually
down to the
saturation of gaming consoles nintendos
because a lot of time people were
committing crimes because they were
bored
and didn't have anything to do and so i
did stuff but when the computer systems
came in
they sat home and played games all night
and so
there were actually um government
programs
to give incentives
to stores to reduce the price on these
consoles so pretty much anybody could
afford them
to actually reduce crime and it was
measured in more than one state and it
was
measured overseas as well that the
introduction of
gaming consoles reduced crime greatly
that makes total sense yeah what was
that
i don't remember which batman movie it
was
but they were talking about the the tv
and the batman movie
and there was this attachment you put on
the tv
and it kind of dug into your brain and
and kept you there it's
it's kind of that same thing are you
sure that was a batman movie i'm pretty
sure it was a batman movie
sounds like a spongebob episode
or it could have been a dora the
explorer yeah i i don't know
now do you think covert will go away
about a week after the election after
the results it's going to disappear
you know what do you think it's used
politically no i think it's going to
depend on who's elected
right well that's what i mean i mean
yeah so so prediction
from the shepherd if uh
joe biden wins the election
coveted disappears by
march along with hurricanes we'll never
have another
hurricane or forest fire according to
him yeah
if if trump wins we're staying in the
coveted season
yeah that that is my prediction
quite honestly uh i think that is what's
going to happen
now now do you think um i mean obviously
a lot of states through their courts
have said that they're gonna
you know take mail-in ballots days after
the election and they're gonna have to
be counted
even ones which aren't signed um there's
some states which have said you know
there doesn't have to be an id to prove
that this person actually voted and all
this
do you think by this point if it drags
on
past the election night which i'm
it 99.99 99 so so and
i know where you're going here but but
let's stop put a pin in that and say
i am 99.999
sure on tuesday we are not
going to know who's elected president
and the fact you've just said that we
probably are
99.9 sure that they will announce it on
tuesday night probably
yeah but no i mean my my question was
going to be do you think
people at that point are going to be
fatigued when it drags on too long
and don't really give a crap just as
long as they sort it out and they just
want to get on with their lives
i i think they are i think
we just we're so fatigued with
everything else that's going on right
now
that this is just one more thing that
we're sitting here trying to figure out
when this is going to end
uh you know the covid thing nobody knows
when this
is going to end you know when can when
can i
just go into a store and not put a mask
on my face
is that what i'm supposed to do the rest
of my life so
the same thing with the election look
let's just
get it figured out and so we can move on
stop dragging
things out this is not some kind of
uh sitcom this is not some kind of
drama show on netflix where
you know you could have had the show
that
would have been three episodes but we
turn it into 10 and we just drag out
this
story and we don't know what's going on
we don't know what the end is
just tell us what the end game is just
tell us what the results are
now you're gonna be um on tuesday are
you gonna be sitting at home glued to
the
screen like nine o'clock onwards just
kind of see where it's going
you know i don't know yet uh
i i remember when the 2016 election
happened i was actually in new orleans
louisiana
and i was on a work trip
and everybody else on that work trip
decided they were going to bed early
and so i'm standing there in the hotel
wondering you know what am i going to do
because actually the next morning we had
a fishing trip planned
and so everybody wanted to go to bed
early and rest up for that and i'm like
i'm in new orleans it's election night
you know what am i supposed to do
and i remember walking down the street
and going to a newsstand and i
bought four copies of newsweek magazine
that had hillary clinton right on the
front and said madame
yeah madame predecent yeah yeah and
i have uh i gave one to
a buddy of mine in new york city
he has one i gave one to a friend of
mine in
the outskirts of atlanta georgia and i
still have
the other two copies but i saw that and
i thought well
wait a second we haven't even decided
the election yet
and this is already on the newsstand
so so they only had four copies that's
why i bought the four copies
i still have those the remaining two
copies sitting in
a box somewhere in my right
i don't know what's gonna happen this
time around though
uh will i sit there and watch it
i'll probably turn the tv on after the
kids go to bed
on tuesday night just to see what the
news channels are saying
you know are we going to drag this out
have we already decided who the
president's going to be
all that and leave it at that yeah
now i actually think i mean given i
think it was hillary clinton's birthday
last week
or earlier this week yeah it was in
october yeah when our latest supreme
justice was
uh voted in that maybe you should send
one of your spare copies to her but you
know i love you and i don't want you to
commit suicide next week so maybe no no
no
i'd rather not do that no not yet yeah
yeah i i've still got
you know 21 years left in my life yeah
no
no i've never noticed that earlier now
um
you know i tried to think of you know if
i was able to ask
you know any politician who we could
actually get to come into the podcast
and ask them a very pertinent and
serious question about the election
what would i ask what would be that one
thing where
i think most politicians wouldn't answer
because it's so controversial
but i wanted to ask you this question
i think the question would be did george
lucas make a huge mistake selling the
star wars franchise to disney
no he's just swimming in money so not
from his point of view for the rest of
us yeah
but actually it was uh if you could vote
for any sesame street character to be
president who would it be
oh see much better question uh
big bird big bird why
because he's clueless you know he he's
just walking around he's got his
imaginary friends snuffleupagus
uh which why is he imaginable well when
no
when i was a kid snuffalupkus was
imaginary now i've heard
the sesame street cannon says that he
exists
but well i've seen him he does exist
but if you look at big bird
the big question should be who would run
and who would be the running mate i
would say big bird
for president and oscar the grouch for
vice president no you you cannot choose
the running mate
from sesame street the running mate the
running mate has to be from the star
wars universe who's
backing up big bird
yoda why
you've got to think about if the first
candidate dies or something unfortunate
happens
the second one the running mate is going
to take over do you really want yoda to
uh
oh absolutely i think he's a better
advisor
why why wouldn't you want yoda run in
the country
he's he's the only one in the star wars
universe that really didn't make any
mistakes
and he's always that that quiet guy
that's kind of sitting in the corner and
and remember was that uh was it episode
two whenever he fought count dooku
and you know he's always walking around
with kane next thing you know he's got
his lightsaber and he's flipping all
over the place and
and he's crazy that that's what you'd
want in a vice presidential candidate
yeah but you also have to remember that
in the empire strikes back
it was pretty uh confused by the concept
of a flashlight
wow i i think that was brilliant because
i know that you know he knew what a
flashlight was he was fooling luke
he was trying to prove to him that he
knew a lot more than
luke ever knew well that's kind of the
way
so uh last before we wrap
this up let's let's make some
last-minute predictions
so uh like i said we're not going to be
partisan with this
you know and and i'm i'm going to go
ahead and say this but
i almost hate that i'm going to say this
seriously if you haven't voted go vote
this is going to be
you know out before the election day and
all that so
so go vote but if
biden wins
do we see any difference in the country
it what what do you think
i i don't think there will be but like
like you said we don't want to go down
right now okay so so yes you're gonna
see a difference if
trump wins again do you see
anything changing well you know i i tend
to vote
based upon domestic
foreign and fiscal policies so i don't
really
necessarily care that much about the
character
of the people i'm voting for unless
they're pedos
so i'd rather have somebody brash
win who maybe might be
come across like we discussed in one of
our previous podcasts about
maybe they exercised a little bit of
toxic masculinity i'd rather have
somebody a little bit
brash win who will get things done
and make things work better for us than
somebody who's trying to be an appeaser
and that's why you know if he had to
push me
i would rather have trump win i don't
think
joe biden necessarily you know
has the nerve to stand up to some of the
people who would like to see america
fail and i don't just mean that in terms
of foreign people i mean that in terms
of within the country
so but having said that i think it's
really up in the air if you gave me a
prediction
i absolutely don't know i mean i
wouldn't i wouldn't want to place
one dollar on who's gonna win and who's
not gonna win
you know because especially like i said
my dog got a mail-in vote option
and i suppressed her vote but i i just i
just don't know
i i can honestly tell you i i don't know
who's gonna win
i really don't i think uh one thing we
can
blame the mainstream media on
is the suppression of the fly that
landed on mike pence's head
that fly should have had a voice
should have had a voice we probably got
a male invite well
of course he did yeah yeah but you
probably have a short lifespan so he
probably died before it got to the post
office
and of course i'm misgingering the fly i
don't know if it's a male or female fly
or or
non-binary or whatever so i apologize to
the fly that landed on mike pence's head
if i offended you because that's the
last thing we want to do
so hopefully you've listened to this
before
the election uh if you're listening to
it after the election
and uh we may or may not know
who the president is uh yeah it it's
it's gonna be even if you're listening
to this in
march 2021 we still might not know
ah that's a good point yeah that's an
excellent point so
thank you everybody for your continued
support and listening to the podcast we
certainly appreciate it
and we will catch you on the next one