The Wolf AND The Shepherd discuss the world of vaccines and how they have changed our health over time.
welcome to this episode of the wolf and
the shepherd today we're gonna
talk about just a little prick
just just a little prick
and don't take this the wrong way
because we're not trying to
put any kind of intonation in this but
actually what we're going to talk about
is vaccines
and of course if you're following the
news which i think we are
all following the news right now trying
to figure out what's going on especially
with
vaccines and the uh coven 19
and all that good stuff uh we decided we
we'd take a little dive with our
crack squad of research
and figure out what are vaccines
why should we be concerned about
vaccines
and should we be concerned about this
new coveted vaccine
right um when i first suggested the
subtitle of it's just a little prick
the shepherd kind of went a bit glassy
eyed and got a little bit upset it
brought back too many memories of what
had been said to him in the past
absolutely i i always
you know worry about the fact that you
try to trick me into some of these
topics yeah and and i felt this was
another trick
possibly yeah it's a subliminal dig
through
uh titles in parentheses um now um
during the research for vaccines or
inoculation whatever you want to call it
well what what do they call it in
britain because over here
in the united states it's always
vaccines you know you're getting
vaccinations
but but you talk about inoculation yeah
is that just more of a
medical word i mean you called it
vaccines over there yeah okay yeah i
mean
the kind of people you hear use the word
inoculation i don't think a general
either
everyday type person that's right just
another way for them to describe it
without well
in the same word inoculation has so many
more syllables than vaccines yeah
it's easier to say vaccine it's worth
more in words with friends
for sure but um
yeah looking i was actually very
surprised about
you know how far back you know vaccines
or
inoculation goes i was actually
surprised to see it goes back
over a thousand years to china
where they actually climbed they'd
actually grind up smallpox
scabs and that either blow them up your
nostrils which i'm sure must have been a
very pleasant experience
sure or they'd actually scratch them
into the skin on your arm
okay but i'm assuming it must have had
some kind of level of success unless
this was just one of those
things where you know there was no level
of empirical study going on whatsoever
sure and of course you think today
with the vaccine testing and you asked
for volunteers for that
can you imagine back then when you know
back in china and there's like hey look
i want to scratch your skin i want to
rub all this bad stuff in your skin and
we
want to figure out whether or not this
works for you
and some dudes got to be like yeah huh
okay yeah
yeah let's give it a shot yeah i'm not
sure all this
test subjects were necessarily
volunteers
you know they probably got a whole bunch
of people blew some scabs up in the
night
scratched some smallpox stuff into their
arm and just kind of the cards fell
where they
yeah did really no there's probably a
lot of truth to that
and guarantee they weren't being paid
like seven hundred and fifty dollars per
yeah oh no no it's not like going and
donating blood or anything else like
that and there's
monetary value it's probably a lot of
military where they said
okay soldiers hey come over here we're
gonna do this to you and
and let's figure this deal out but
you've got to wonder who came up
with that idea to blow the scabs up the
nose it's one thing which is always
surprised me by things like um i think
for
i think it's hemorrhoid ointment one of
the largest
parts of it is shark liver oil and you
have to think well how did
somebody kind of have that idea that as
shark's liver
the oil from it would cure hemorrhoids i
mean i kind of thought that it'd be a
man wandering along the beach
late at night hemorrhoids killing him
sees the dead shark washed up on the
beach
thinks you know what i'm going to cut it
open grab the liver and stick it up my
butt and see if that helps with
hemorrhoids
it worked and you know yeah well it it's
kind of like the old story about
uh preparation h you worry about
all the people that took preparation a
through g
you know they they finally got to h and
they figured it out and then of course
everybody says oh well the age stands
for hemorrhoids
uh did it really or or
or or were there certain people
that did tested a through g and and had
horrible yeah adverse effects right that
that would be terrible to think about
well even something like if it had
landed on preparation g they could have
still said oh yeah it just means giant
luck
lumps on your butthole or something you
know exactly i think they just made it
fit the narrative yeah
no it makes total sense yeah and one
thing another thing which actually
surprised me when i was looking up
this stuff about china having very early
versions of
i guess inoculations or whatever was
that um
the website i went to it used the date c
e which means in the common era now
there's also bce which means before the
common era
and you know they use this instead of bc
before christ and
no dominar in the year of our lord but
and you weren't going to a website that
uh
shows videos that are not suitable for
work right no
okay no okay just making sure no but i i
know that's the first time i've actually
it's the first time i've actually seen
that and i actually had to open up
another browser
window and look up in the search engine
what ce
and bce meant because i'd
actually never seen it down like that
but i think
what i could get from it is i think it
was invented by people who cry when
they're seeing god we trust on money
sure i i mean it makes total sense the
the ironic part about the whole
ce and bce is
they're still using the same years right
in
in the old school way it's before christ
and anna domini
but they didn't change the numbering
system
they just decided to change the way we
talk about
it they they kept that so they're
acknowledging the fact
of this is when the calendar changed
yeah we're just going to rename that so
kind of ridiculous they're weird but
anyway in 1796
i believe a.d anno domini in the year of
our lord
yeah common era right and
edward jenner actually used cowpox
material
to create immunity to cow pox do you
think they were related to
caitlyn jenner uh i would say so
it has to be there's got to be a
correlation here
oh big rabbit hole there maybe we
shouldn't go around there but
yeah yeah there's something there but
anyway so my logic my logical
thing from reading that sentence was huh
i wonder if cows get
cow pox and what's your guess on that
one shepherd what well do cows get cows
chickens get chicken pox do monkeys get
monkey pox
do uh midgets get smallpox
yeah i don't know so i i would say cows
do
not get cow pox that would be my guess
they actually do get cowpens and there
we go and they get
i i'm a hundred percent wrong guessing
yeah as always and they get
lesions on the udders and teats which is
a bit like
a date in a zombie i think yeah
yeah so so does that mean monkeys get
monkey parks and chickens get chicken
pox
and midgets get small parks again i
wasn't curious enough to look to see
whether those things are true maybe one
of our listeners could actually email us
and let us know
yeah or a future podcast yeah we'll
we'll figure that out yeah
because i actually spent so much time
looking up some of this stuff i've
worried i'm going to be flagged for
encouraging biological warfare or
something
yeah you got to be careful with that
very careful with that now actually
once you get to 1885 we actually found
somebody you and i had both heard of
louis pasteur and when he developed the
rabies vaccine
ah okay yeah well it it was that
in milk you know he was big pasteurizing
milk yeah
yeah yeah so so of course we you know we
always think of louis pasteur as
pasteurizing milk but we
also forget about the fact that he was
working with vaccines as well
i'm i'm still gonna just uh remember the
milk thing i
bet by the end of the week i'm gonna
forget about the fact he did anything
with it right
we've got about a minute and a half and
i'm going to forget about
louis pasteur and vaccines but walk us
through it
well that's it that's it
it seemed like a good title because
we've heard of him and he came up with
the rabies vaccine so there we go he's
got a name check he should be happy
i i hope so you should be happy and and
so
let's move on to the next topic and
forget about louis pasteur in the next
45 seconds
because i've already forgotten about
edward jenner even with the bruce and
caitlyn jenner joke have already
forgotten about yeah but see here
i'm still thinking about that a little
bit yeah because
the last time i checked the pasteur
family didn't have any kind of
controversial stuff
but uh i i think if we go
like another minute or so i'll probably
forget about
you know the jenner family having
something to do
with vaccines yeah so it was it wasn't
actually long after
uh louis pasteur came up with the rabies
vaccine that
a whole bunch of vaccines came up for a
lot of diseases which were
you know killer diseases pretty prolific
around the world
i mean they managed to counter
diphtheria
tetanus anthrax cholera plague
typhoid tuberculosis etc in a pretty
short period of time i think once they
got it down they just kind of
ran with the project yeah i mean good
for them it's like oh
okay hey we figured out a way to
start to eradicate these diseases and
this
you know process basically is
getting everybody healthier yeah people
are not
dying from these diseases that they
shouldn't be dying from in the first
place
they figured out a way yeah and
according well according to the world
health organization
immunization prevents about two to three
million deaths each year
now i'm always a little bit skeptical
when you use kind of
relatively low numbers but there's such
a big gap because if somebody says to me
oh it's between
480 billion and 490
billion i'm kind of like well i can
understand why it's not exact but
between two and three million that's
pretty
tight window yeah it's it's it's a tight
window but
you'd figure by now they'd be doing
research to get their data a little bit
more exact than that
because you know obviously the world's
population is increasing
right so you'd consider there's more
vaccines
and you'd be able to track i guess
you know somewhat accurately
you know as in deaths in previous years
what percentage of people
you know lives are being saved so i just
thought that
two to three million was just kind of a
guess i think they asked uh
frank late on a friday afternoon when he
really wanted to go home
said frank how many lives a year do you
think you're safe by vaccines
i don't know two to three million all
right we're running oh well yeah it's
not like anybody can fact-check us so
you know yeah buy me a pint and yeah
and send me on my way that that's all
all i got going for yeah
now um the cdc actually estimate that
one percent of children in the
united states don't receive any
vaccinations at all now part of this is
one person wow okay but part of that is
down to you know illegal immigrants
being scared to kind of register their
kids to go and get
you know vaccines but well yeah and of
course they're
kind of scared with that because they
don't want to get punished out of the
country yeah it makes sense and the
other side of it
is obviously the anti-vaxxers you know
people who don't believe in any type of
vaccination at all
sure so i mean i guess that kind of
makes up for that
um but strangely enough i mean the world
health organization report there are
only actually no let's play another
you've got no chance of guessing this
anymore
yeah yeah here we go yeah yeah i'm i'm
sure i will lose this one as well i
i'm pretty sure i'm over a million
here so so hit me with this one so how
many licensed
vaccines do you think there are to
prevent diseases such as you know
whooping cough and all this type of
thing
that have actually been licensed for use
by the world health organizations
throughout the world
throughout the world wow okay i'm
i mean you think about how many
diseases and everything are out there
i'm i'm
gonna say a hundred
twenty-seven just 227. yeah
god it seems to me that there should be
so many more i mean i i think about my
kids
in the vaccines that they get as they
were
growing up and you know a lot of the
vaccines that they got
were the same vaccines that i got when i
was a kid but
i do remember when my kids went to the
doctor
and the doctor is explaining to to me
and my wife you know
here's the vaccines that your your kid's
gonna get
and they listed chickenpox and i said
there's a chickenpox vaccine that was
part of growing up for me
everybody got the chicken oh yeah we'd
have parties to make sure everybody goes
oh
yeah yeah yeah there was no chicken pox
vaccine everybody got the chicken pox
and you just suffered through that and
you knew
once you were done with the chicken pox
you couldn't get it again yeah now
there's a vaccine
because i i was thinking as a young
adult
you know i remember as a kid having the
chicken pox and thinking
you know this is going to suck to have
my kids go through the chickenpox
and you know my oldest daughter is 17
years old never had the chickenpox has
had the vaccine will never have the
chickenpox
but that's fantastic kind of looking
back
years ago my dad was the same way
when he found out that there was a
measles vaccine because my dad had the
measles
and that was something growing up in
kansas that everybody got the measles
and it kind of you know was a
survival of the fittest kind of deal can
you get through the measles
and my dad kind of had that same
reaction that
well i thought my kid was just gonna
have to have the measles that's part of
growing up
yeah and so there we are with that
i'm pretty sure in the 80s actually
there were similar parties
aids parties where everybody went to try
and catch aids but unfortunately that
didn't catch on once people realized
that that had to do with certain music
groups
in in certain uh people of uh
diversified origin yeah yeah
well we'll leave it at that yeah because
we don't want to get
too discriminatory yeah now what i
couldn't find
and i did go to a bunch of different
websites was exactly how many different
types of vaccines there
are there are depending where you go
anywhere between four and six
different types how they're described
really yeah i mean one's called um
a live vaccine a live background
attenuated that's where they actually
put in
i think the live cultures into you and
jet you were the actual
oh wow okay so they're they're basically
giving you the disease yeah then you
have a inactivated
um there's toxoid subunit
and conjugate so uh at this point in
time i had a little bit of research
fatigue so i absolutely made
any zero attempt to find any difference
between those lower ones
yeah i just say it's just too much yeah
that that that was too much
just to try to explain it to me right
now yeah
but according to the cdc and i actually
do not believe this
statistic whatsoever is that flu
vaccinations reduce the risk of flu
by between forty and sixty percent i
don't believe again i think that's a
guess but i also don't believe that
i don't believe it i i don't believe it
yeah i i
i don't think flu vaccines help i don't
believe you
i i don't believe you yeah yeah the
problem is
you're not saying this is true so i
can't say i don't believe
you but i don't believe you who with the
the flu vaccine yeah i just i
i just i don't believe it have you ever
had have you ever had a flu vaccination
nope no i had never have i had one
maybe about eight or nine
years ago and that's the only time in
the last
eight or nine years i actually got the
flu if it makes you feel better i've
lied about the fact of getting a flu
vaccine
because my wife wants me to get a flu
shot
and i've said yeah i i went to walgreens
i went to cvs i went here and i got
one i totally lied about it i'm not
gonna get it
yeah i'm not afraid of the flu so if i
get the flu i get the flu
i'll be fine you'd rather have the flu
than a little prick
yes yes yes we'll go with yes on that
one
good choice now this again going back to
the cdc they actually say that
um your child should be protected from
about
14 different vaccine preventable
diseases by the age of two
sure which which is a lot oh it's a lot
i i i mean i remember my kids of course
you know you
you've got a kid as well it you know you
go to the doctor
and every time you turn around it's like
oh we're gonna give them like three or
four shots and then we're gonna prevent
all these diseases
and most of them you don't even think
about it's like oh measles mumps rubella
i gotta be honest with you i don't even
know what rebella
is but i know we get vaccines for it
and so that means that disease is still
floating around somewhere
so we still have to be back for it i
thought that was like
is that not connected to like german
measles and the mmr chap i don't know
again i didn't do enough research by now
exactly but but there's so many vaccines
we get
i don't know what these diseases are i
just say well
i had a shop for this i i'm good yeah i
don't worry about it with the six most
uh deadly diseases actually which you're
supposed to be able to prevent
via vaccination colorblindness uh
no there is one for that but the needle
is about the size of a bicycle pump
needle and they have to do it
directly in the eye and so they haven't
found enough people volunteering for
that stuff
i'll stick with my color blindness then
yeah but the six most deadly diseases
anyway are measles
polio diphtheria whooping cough
tetanus and tuberculosis so those are
the ones i mean i've heard of all of
those so i can understand
you know the kind of need to inject and
prevent those i mean they're the largest
and so the the only one that i kind of
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remember some of the rules on is tetanus
because they always talk about you
should have a tetanus shot every 10
years
right so yeah the basically yeah yeah
so so you got measles mumps rubella
chickenpox all these and and you have
your
course of vaccinations and now you you
have the immunity
but why haven't they figured out a way
to
make you immune for your whole life with
tetanus yeah you always have to have
this tetanus booster
i remember watching the show er and you
know
they'd have somebody come into the the
er and of course this is tv but
there's still a little bit of reality
here and
you know somebody had
been impaled by an object or whatever
and they'd always say and give them a
tetanus booster yeah
like why haven't we figured out a way to
make us immune to tetanus yeah when
there's
all these other diseases where we
figured out a way to just give you a
couple of shots when you're a little
baby and you
can't remember this but somehow we
haven't figured out tetanus well i don't
i don't think we all have the same
level of i guess weakness to tetanus
i remember in england they'd also used
to call it you know tetanus is to
protect against blood poisoning
which you know infection by you know
going over a you know blunt dirty object
whatever but i haven't had a booster now
i don't think in 30 years
and yet some of the work i've done you
know i've tried on nails
scratched the heck out of myself and
never really had a reaction so i wonder
after you've
had a few of the boosters that your
system's
not maybe 100 you know immune but right
along those lines
you've got enough antibodies floating
around your system to kind of
fight this way in in going back to what
you said
i haven't had a tetanus booster
since i was a teenager right
at least so you're talking about 20 plus
years ago and if you're supposed to have
one every 10 years
i mean i'm way behind on that but i've
stepped on nails
i've had you know metal rusty metal that
that was always the
the deal it's always rusty metal right
you step on a screw you step on a nail
it you get some kind of metal with rust
on it and that's going to give you
tetanus
right and that's happened
i can't even remember how many times
it's happened to me
and apparently i haven't had tetanus so
yeah
well a lot of um the isds the
independent school districts here in the
states
actually require that your children have
a certain number of vaccinations and you
have to provide certificates or they
won't
allow them to come to schools and i
thought originally all this only must be
you know some states and the usual
suspects at that but there's actually
laws in all 50 states that allow
independent school districts to pretty
much make their own rules about
what vaccinations your kids have to have
now there is
like medical exemptions um
and amazingly like even my son you know
has autism he didn't have to have
a number of vaccinations on the list
because there still isn't conclusive
proof that some of these vaccines
don't necessarily cause autism but don't
you know maybe increase the chances if
you get in it or if you've already get
it
already got it make it worse and that's
partly due to the
uh build up of the heavy metals which is
the delivery system
into the brain and you know some
people's
i guess physiology doesn't deal with
that
very well and it causes those issues
which lead to
you know kids being on the spectrum and
you know whether it be adhd or
autism or whatever we're all different
i mean it you know no white person no
black person
no brown person
you know wherever you want to go with
this
we're all different and we're all going
to
react to things differently whether it's
vaccines whether it's drugs whether it's
you know whatever else that there's so
many variables out there
so to give this finite description of
here's what is going to happen when i
inject you with this
is pseudoscience
there's no way for anybody to know what
exactly is going to happen with anybody
you got all the different blood types
you you have body mass index you
you have all these crazy things that can
be out there
to determine how your body is going to
react to certain foods
whether or not you're going to be
allergic to eating peanut butter
or get stung by a bee or whatever
science hasn't figured that out yet
right so
i i totally believe that and it makes
sense and i
you know before we decided to talk about
the subject
i had done research in the past about
why they put heavy metals
certain metals in what what metals are
they putting in there uh well mainly
it's aluminum and mercury
okay and they used it
mercury in what aluminum aluminium
there you go yeah yeah you're supposed
to say aluminium
you know that's the way the british
people but you know what you've been in
this country so long now you're saying
aluminum yeah so
so we're we're converting you so we're
slowly converting you
so that that's good to hear you
pronounce that word correctly
yeah well they're basically used as a
juvenile
which means their presence boosts the
immune response
from the vaccination now whether that
means if they weren't included
they wouldn't be anywhere near as
effective or it just kind of increases
the effectiveness a little bit i don't
know but given them
a number of studies over the last 20 to
30 years
and there still hasn't been a definitive
answer
because there hasn't been a long enough
study
which people will dare kind of dip their
fingers into as such to come out and
say that some of these vaccines are
dangerous i mean they're over
um half of parents in the united states
believe that the flu shot
actually increases the chances of their
kids
getting the flu and thankfully the flu
shot's not on that list
of what you have to have to be able to
go to school
right it look it like you say
with all of this time and research
i i don't think the time's gonna change
any of this because i don't think we're
ever gonna figure it out
yeah our science hasn't gotten there yet
uh as much as you and i both agree that
science is trying their best to figure
this out
they're still not there they're still
making best guesses
yeah and so you've got to say well okay
these guys over here they're they're
studying this they're in laboratories
they've got their
white coats on they got their pocket
protectors on
uh they never go on dates they eat
terrible food
and they have zits all over their faces
we hope that because we're all out there
living our lives that there's somebody
locked up in a lab
trying to figure this out for the rest
of the population that sounds like me
when i was 14 actually
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i i thought that's where all english
people were well
not since the uh developments in
acne treating creams you know that stuff
which boils the skin off your face when
you put it on
yeah you're not supposed to put within
like nine foot of your eye because
you have it on your face it's not like
radius of the lost ark when they open
the ark in the cupboard
no no not like okay okay so too
too much to that extreme well but i tell
you what
none of those nazis had acne after that
happened that's true
that's a benefit you've got to look at
that benefit analysis
that that was a benefit yeah let's be
honest all right
now um obviously the biggest vaccine
everybody is curious about
yeah in in in let's lead into this so
here's why we're talking about this
right now
this is why you presented let's talk
about vaccines yeah
the biggest one is what what why are we
talking about vaccines
protection against the corona oh the
rona
the wrong dad
even though we know there there's plenty
of diseases that are actually corona
viruses we're not going to go down that
but we're talking about the covid19 the
covet the rona
that that evil thing that that is
keeping us locked down and now on the
horizon
we have this vaccine that's magically
appeared
now remember aids has been around for 40
years
we still don't have a vaccine for that
but magically
we're about to have a vaccine for the
rona
yeah now actually on a little bit of an
aside i remember when
corona first appeared and
they fed us this bs about it being
connected to a manny in about
uh you know live market or whatever and
one of the best memes i saw
hey by the way bat lives matter they do
bad lives do matter
and the meme had jesus
like doing a twitter post and say hey
guys i'm back
what's been going on and right and one
of the replies to some this guy's saying
uh
i'm not sure some guy in china ate about
and now i'm unemployed
yeah i mean that's kind of where we're
at
yeah that is where we're at yeah so so
now we have this news on the horizon
yeah that uh and
i think you're probably going to get
into this a little more
but uh the coveted 19 vaccine
is almost here it's almost here well
it depends what you mean by almost here
because pfizer and
biontech announced uh the vaccine a few
days ago
i don't know why they waited till after
the election i'm sure the information
was out before but
oh i'm not let's not go there no i'm i'm
sure that is
that is just yeah you know a
happenstance right
there that had nothing to do with the
election right
so that was coincidence 100 coincidence
so it's supposed to be uh over 90
effective and they had just over
43 000 people uh take part in the trials
and they're just passing through kind of
the middle towards the end of phase
three
at the moment but pfizer actually
expected to apply to the fda for
emergency use
authorization by november the 20th okay
so so what is this emergency use
because last i checked pfizer was the
company
that makes viagra so can i file
some kind of emergency use with pfizer
if i have a problem well i'm sure if you
got script
okay making a making
this might be important yeah but but
let's try to stay on topic okay
yeah so that that will make it uh let's
see
about two months um
since the last volunteers got their
second dose of the vaccine which
magic oh wait wait let's stop there
second dose so
so this isn't a a one shot walk away
deal no
you've got to have these boosters kind
of like tetanus where apparently you got
to get this every 10 years well i'm not
sure why
it was two part but the key thing in
that
is that by november 20th that will only
mark
two months since the volunteers got
their second dose of the vaccine
okay which i don't necessarily think is
a long enough time to decide if you're
going to grow
two heads that could be convenient
though
yeah but the fda magically have asked
vaccine makers for two months of safety
data
two months so today before before they
apply for authorization
um and so it could actually be cleared
by
mid-december to actually be used on the
general public
yeah but but you know what you're going
into thanksgiving you're going into
christmas time you're going into kwanzaa
you're going into uh
oh why am i drawing a blank uh hanukkah
you're going into all those december
holidays wouldn't it make more sense to
have this come out say
i don't know january 21st
you know right around inauguration day
would that make more sense well i i
don't know i mean i think the
thought is that people can have this and
more people
realize that hey you know it's going to
be thanksgiving soon and then the
christmas holidays the new year
maybe if i have this vaccine now it's
going to protect protect me
from getting it from my family or from
me giving it to their family
which is why i said the whole timing to
me seems very very suspicious
it's a little bit you know a little bit
but
i i gotta say i wanna be
robert de niro here and goodfellas
saying
a little bit a little bit yeah i i'm
just a
little bit i i'm i'm a little concerned
with this now i kind of know the answers
obviously but will you take it
if it's not no no i will not take it
well
plus we've already had it right we we've
talked about the covid before and you
and i have both already had the coven
uh so why
yeah you know look let's
let's put it this way i had chickenpox
when i was in i want to say like third
or fourth grade
why would i take a chickenpox vaccine
doesn't make any sense right i already
had the disease
once you have it you don't get it
anymore well i think the scarcity
so cdc and the world health organization
have been that
if you've caught the corona that your
immunity might only last for about six
months even though there's not really
any way of them being able to tell that
given we're
barely six months past from when yeah
but you know what fair enough
you know for for the listeners out there
i've had malaria
and it there is no malaria vaccine
and there are plenty of people that get
malaria in their life
more than once right so even though i
took
medicine i took i wouldn't call it a
vaccine
necessarily i don't even know what the
name of it was but i
i took drugs before i went
overseas to try to help prevent me
getting
malaria but i still got malaria
and you know now i i can't donate blood
and there's all these other restrictions
on my blood
but i would never take a malaria vaccine
knowing that hey i've had malaria before
i can get malaria again but
i would never take a chickenpox vaccine
knowing
i was always told you get chicken pox
you get over it and you don't get it
again yeah
now this talk of the corona
vaccine being made mandatory including
going door to door in some countries
where they'll check
and you have to provide your certificate
and you're going to have to carry this
certificate around with you to get
entrance to certain places
and some of these things some of the
politicians even in the united states
have talked about making this mandatory
that
it's not a choice thing that protect
everybody everybody has to have this
vaccine this vaccine just
had safety tests for two whole months
right
and by the way there there was a movie
that came out that
you and i uh off the podcast we talked
about
uh that kind of dealt with the same
thing you know you had the bracelet
that you had to wear saying hey you took
the vaccine
for this or whatever kind of sounds like
that
same thing in uh contagion
yeah i think was that the name of the
movie yeah i haven't
watched the whole thing yeah but but
it's kind of that
same deal where they're saying hey you
have to take this
to to be able to do anything
uh maybe we get to that
it's kind of scary to think about but
maybe we do get to that well just to put
your mind at rest about the vaccine
okay and this is the last piece of info
i really kind of have on it
back in september which was not that
long ago right
pfizer announced mostly
mild to moderate safety concerns in
phase
3 profiles with occasional instances
of severe or grade 4 side effects and
this was just a few months ago but
now they're applying for it to be like
oh no it's totally safe in the fda
you're gonna be like oh yeah you've gone
through two months the safety checks
right this thing could be at your local
cvs or walmart and then injecting you
into yeah you know you go to cbs or
or walgreens or walmart or or target or
something like that or or to uh use a
phrase from one of our sponsors with
alien ale jason the board
target right
go ahead and and take this vaccine
it's gonna be okay don't worry about
that
but maybe we should be worried about it
i
wouldn't risk it to be honest i mean if
some people want to take it if
people who are high at risk because they
have you know secondary or tertiary
ailments
and catching the corona would kind of
push them over the edge
they want to take it i understand it but
you know you and i when we both had it
we were kind of
felt a bit under the weather for a day
and a half and then yeah was it it was
it was a bad flu yeah in in well even
that didn't really last that long
no it didn't and and you've known people
i've known people
that that have since had it and they've
gotten over it
and it was yeah kind of like a bad flu i
mean
look let's be honest being sick sucks
being sick sucks whether it's
you know your nose is stopped up and
and and you're blowing your nose all the
time or you're coughing all the time
or you've got a fever or you're
lethargic or
or whatever being sick sucks
but we do have an immune system yeah
we our bodies have
a internal defense mechanism
to try to fight off these diseases
so sometimes you gotta let our bodies
say hey
we got this we got this just
go do your thing yeah go to work go go
take care of all this go to school go to
work go do your thing
we got this we don't need anything
introduced into us to to help us
now don't take me in the wrong way
to say vaccines are bad because i
believe in vaccines i think they're
good but it's the same reason
i don't take the flu vaccine or the flu
shot which is ironic if you think about
it they don't say it's the flu vaccine
every year
right they say hey come get a flu shot
yeah
it seems to me to be a little different
yeah
right and you gotta have it every year
because
the virus mutates or whatever in in last
time i checked
neither one of us are doctors so we
don't really know exactly how all that
works right
but i would rather rely on my immune
system to fight that off
than than pumping something into me but
if it was something horrible then yeah i
would say okay well
maybe i'll take this vaccine but what if
what if you know they put a microchip in
me
what if they put a microchip in me are
are we microchipping people
well with people carrying frames around
yeah but but outside of your buddy yeah
have we have we hidden in that
aluminum and mercury have we hidden a
microchip
have we done well that's the big fear
and obviously going back to the mark of
the beast and
revelations all that i just want to
leave by saying before we wrap
up again another great meme i saw about
uh vaccines was this guy saying
my father always said that laughter was
the best medicine
right which explains why nine of us died
of polio
my god yeah that it makes total sense
so uh you know we're gonna put this out
that there's been news
that this vaccine is coming
and obviously if you're gonna make your
decision on
whether or not to take this vaccine
based off what we're telling you
then you have some serious mental issues
and you
probably need to see a psychiatrist but
you know we hope that we're gonna get
out of this
covered era and we're gonna go back to
normal
but with all that said thank you for
tuning in to this episode of the wolf
and the shepherd
and we'll catch you on the next one