The Wolf And The Shepherd answer some submitted questions from a listener in England which lead to interesting discussions, such as the fact that Mackenzie Bezos is the Shepherd's hero, why Texas is the best state to live in and why people should stop moving to Texas, family vacations, the differences between anger and sadness, the infusion of money into food stamp accounts in Texas, micro-managing, why time zones are ridiculous, how the United States invented time, the Rodney King incident, riding shopping carts in parking garages, the one chip challenge, how to save money by convincing your kids that they are fat, why subtitles in films are terrible, the ratings of shows on Netflix, the photoshopping of Walt Disney smoking, and why you should go to college to get a chemistry degree if you want to start a meth lab.
welcome to this episode of the wolf and
the shepherd today we're gonna talk
about getting to know you
yeah this isn't actually about us
getting to know our listening audience
because
i figure the less we know about them the
less liability we have
legally well not only that but at least
it's not me getting to know you right
because
i think i already know who you are yeah
okay just want to make sure
well we had quite a long email from a
guy named
mark in luton in england now have you
ever heard of luton lewton
yeah spell it l-u-t-o-n okay
no i've never heard of luton england
well the most famous thing about it
is it's got an airport a small airport
but
it's one of those places where the rest
of the country kind of has a bit of a
bias about it they kind of pretend it
doesn't exist you know like there's
certain states in the united states
where people a little bit embarrassed
they're kind of included in the union
oh well yeah people say name them and
they'll be like you've only named 49
yeah right yeah yeah the ones the ones
that matter well it isn't that kind of
how we
treat texas it's like there's texas and
then there's the other 49 kind of
bastard children of the united states
right because texas is the only one that
really matters
that really matters exactly so so that's
luton
new england gotcha because i always
thought it was whales
i always thought in the united kingdom
nobody liked the welsh
no we like the welsh we kind of feel
sorry for them because it's terrible
weather
and yeah but isn't the whole country
terrible weather well
but yeah just maximize it imagine not be
imagine having a bad night's sleep and
meaning that oh you barely got 45
minutes but then somebody else says they
had a bad night's sleep and they only
got two minutes that's whales
in terms of the bad weather i mean it
literally rains most of the time i don't
think anybody from wales
has actually got sunburned whilst being
in wales before
gotcha yeah that makes sense so luton
one of the other things it has going for
it is like
the most type of white trashy type
accent
imaginable along english terms well yeah
it's hard for me to do it without you
kind of like
well i'm not making making it up right
but
here's one of the problems though see
you can hear these different english
accents i guess the same way that an
american says oh you must
be from texas so you must be from boston
and
and all of that to me all the english
accents just sound
all the same oh governor governor i'm
here
cheerio you know bollocks and that's
pretty much what we do
you're kind of captivated that you think
it's like the broadway
version of oliver twist or something and
everybody speaks like that yeah
but i'm gonna do a luton accent okay and
i'll promise you i'm not making this up
all right love do you want a drink yeah
i'm from luton in it yeah
that's literally that's the women that's
the women that's not the women that's
that's how the women that's our posh
person from luton
wow that's how that accent is that is
why people make fun of it
so i can totally see that so anyway mark
uh thank you for writing in um we
love luton don't we sheppard well now
that i've heard of it i'm
not quite sure i mean it's not it's not
quite it's not quite canada
we're not going to put our names to the
tourist brosher but right
exactly so his wife
found this incredible question and
answer thing on the internet
um mark himself said he didn't really
enjoy the previous ones because they
sounded like the questions were written
by somebody who's not normally allowed
internet access without
adult or legal supervision oh yeah yeah
almost like the uh
what are those like the family filters
or whatever parental controls
so to speak they allowed access to
disney junior website and
maybe i don't know bbc world service for
kids i don't know
right but he found this definitive list
of questions well his wife did
now suspiciously if anybody actually
remembered all these details about us
they'd probably be able to answer all of
the security questions on our phone
and our financial accounts well yeah but
that was
but that was interesting but that was
until you told me that little secret of
what were we setting up where we had to
have all those security questions
and it was like you know what's the name
of the street
live on or whatever and i put that in
and like no no you you know put main
street and i'm like
i've never lived on a main street i'm
like yeah but you'll remember main
street and that's not really the street
that you grew up on
so that's your security answer it's not
really the real security answer
i can't even remember what you made me
put my first pet's name
is i'll think it wasn't very pc name
oh that's right now i remember what the
pet's name is yeah yeah
so anyway this question thing
it's pretty good actually i okay so
just before we get started here on
some of this need to let everybody know
i haven't looked at any of these right
you know
you printed out this copy and you said
hey here's what we're doing today which
is typically
what you do yeah uh so i haven't seen
any of this oh i've looked at the first
page
oh you actually okay yeah but there's
five pages so it didn't really help much
oh i thought that was blank paper
underneath your notes
see if you remember the answers to me
cheat sheet where were you born
oh my gosh i've got to narrow it down
this is like an
algebra test okay well i'm going to ask
you the first one let's get the ball
rolling here for
our lovely loot and fans mark and his
wife whose name he didn't actually put
down so it might be his mistress
not trying to get you in any trouble
there mark oh yeah well let's not get
mark and luton in trouble
right so shepherds who is your hero
and don't say jesus this isn't christian
camp okay
all right so we can't do that um and
don't say
my dad my mum don't give that generic
stuff either there's no entertainment
value in that
yeah i guess my hero would be
mackenzie bezos oh
jeff jeff bezos his ex-wife
that's my hero because she bought low
sold high and now is living the good
life
and didn't really do anything for it and
that kind of goes into my laziness of
you know i'd like to find some kind of
connection there like maybe marrow
mary oprah or something way long time
ago and then just kind of ride out that
wagon
until it's time to cut loose and cash in
i always have a bit of difficulty with
this question because
there's quite a few different people who
i admire what they've done
and sometimes it's a one-off you know
somebody's your hero they might have
just done like one thing but it was
so awesomely fantastic like in your
example okay or it might be somebody who
does a day-to-day type thing some people
might answer like batman or something
but
um i don't really have i don't think
i've ever really thought of a specific
hero i think it's more about the deeds
you know i like it when people quite um
selfless and you know save lives and all
that type thing but i don't really have
a hero as such
yeah well you know not everybody needs a
hero
necessarily oh yeah got some scene he's
a hero well yeah i got them
here well not only that but gotham city
is kind of like detroit
well one of the other places we could
mention yeah that's true
and that's true there's a lot of them
all right all right so there we go
i'm actually just going to ask you all
these ones first and then i'm going to
plagiarize or
try and come up with a better answer
than you oh well we can do it that way i
i don't have any issue with that so if
you could live anywhere so does that
mean i don't even need the papers in
front of me now
well technically now yeah yeah right
unless of course you don't understand
one of the words i'm saying and then you
can follow along you can proofread it
yeah that's
a good point yeah okay so if you could
live anywhere where would it be
and it's got to be an actual place you
can't be like you know
mars down wonder woman's oh
yeah something i got you yeah no i mean
although that is my choice
yeah texas i mean i'm i'm already living
where i want to live
texas yeah same here i mean if i could
live anywhere in the world it'd be texas
now it doesn't mean i don't want to
go on vacation to various places like
multiple times
a year sure well because we don't have
great beaches in texas to be honest i
mean they're all right
no now maybe we messed up on this
because maybe we should say don't live
in texas
because everybody keeps coming and
living in texas from
other states maybe we should say that we
want to live somewhere else and texas is
a really bad place to be
in case people are listening to this and
say you know what that's the last one
that's it and now i'm moving to texas so
maybe i want to live in san francisco
yeah yes that's actually this month yes
most of it right
i'm changing my answer you never said i
can't change my answers
so that's not against the rules so i
just changed my answer san francisco
california that's where i want to live
yeah that that is
where if i could live anywhere that's
where i'd want to live okay
um i would like to live in france
or let's think palestine i think i'll go
with those two
so anybody who's thinking to move into
texas
you know france and palestine those
options are still out there well
san francisco palestine and france
pretty much the same place pretty much
the same place
yeah yeah except they're not really
celebrating pride month
much in palestine according to reports i
don't see them doing the french support
year round yes
that's true it's like pride year yeah
exactly
what is your biggest fear people moving
from california to texas
my biggest fear i think if i'm being
serious would be like oh i am being
serious
i'm i'm so scared of all the people from
california
it might be like 10 of people who think
you're joking with that one if i have to
give an answer which people probably
think i'm being serious i would say
probably not being a good dad
you know i want to be i want my son to
remember me as you know he was a good
dad i don't want to be like oh that
[ __ ] i'm glad he
right in the freak helicopter yeah
that's crash you know yeah that's kind
of heavy though
yeah that's yeah yeah biggest fear it
could be like algebra
or something like that well i already
told you what mine is but yours was so
much heavier than mine
right and i think we better move on okay
this one's a bit
harsh because it's not going to be your
favorite but
it's favorite in a category what is your
favorite family vacation
like that i've already been on or that i
want to go on um
well you can do policies if you want oh
and it's a family vacation so it's not
going to be your favorite vacation
because you can only have so much fun
when you're with your family right
so
i don't really have a favorite family
vacation
i'm trying to think about the one that
bothered me the least
so i can name that one as the favorite
vacation my girlfriend's brother
actually sent through this
ad the other day from walmart and it's
got for father's day this
family pack of budweiser and there's 99
cans in it
wow and my girlfriend's uh brother brian
said this is this spear is all for dad
so we can drink it all just so he can
spend the day with his family
right yeah imagine a vacation yeah
absolutely right yeah and i know
you know both of us of course you just
came off a quick
vacation and both of us are actually
going on
not together but separate vacations but
exactly at the same time
well i'm going with my girlfriend so
i'll probably have fun but you're going
with your family so yeah
i know you'd probably rather be here
yeah exactly
you just pretend you're on a work trip
and just like well
sleep in the studio i i could do that
but i could come around we have a spare
room just get around to sleep and just
play xbox
there you go there you go what would you
change about yourself if you could
i don't think i'd change anything i'm
pretty happy with
me yeah you know i kind of like me a
little too much probably a little on the
bane side maybe
maybe the vanity then okay that's what i
would change without the baby
it's self-love a couple of episodes ago
right yeah there you go
yeah what about you um again i'm kind of
with you in i kind of like
mostly how i am but i know there are
some things which i probably should
change i wish i was a little bit
more get up and go up an atom type thing
because we're both pretty lethargic and
lazy
true i wish that i wasn't quite that way
because i know i could achieve so much
more but it was something yeah you know
from about and did something are you
really sure that you would change that
because
i know the way we both are and when we
look at people that are those get up and
go people we're like
i don't want to be that person i don't
even want to hang out with that person
so that that basically means you
wouldn't want to hang out with yourself
well the only time actually i feel like
that is when money is involved because
if i see oh
like oh look at this guy over a weekend
he built his own garage and built
you know a deck in the backyard that's
awesome i've got absolutely no jealousy
when it comes to that i would rather sit
on my back get up play some rocket
league go take a nap
right you know no no no chance that i
just mean like
you know i wish i was a little bit more
proactive sometimes when it came to
doing something which
probably bring me more money which
ironically the more money i would have
the more i would actually
relax and become lazier with it i know
yeah that's
that's a uh what is that an inverse
relationship there
what really makes you angry now i
thought this should have been worded
what makes you really angry but what
really makes you angry so don't pretend
so you can't just say like french
canadians because that
that just annoys you yeah oh
okay so so different than annoyance so
like a french canadian
cat i'm annoyed but i'm not angry with
it
uh something which makes you say the f
word
i don't think there really is
anything out there that just you know
burns me because i i take that stoic
nature towards most things like oh if
that doesn't affect me then
oh well uh i guess when i
run out of beer that makes me angry no
that makes you sad and dejected
oh you like the incredible you're like
bruce banner at the end of the original
incredible hulk tv series you know he
was just like walking by himself with
that sad music playing
down that deserted street you're like
that when you run out of beer not really
angry
what gets you turning into the hulk
angry
i don't think there is anything yeah
really
uh no
no i just i'm i'm too laid back i guess
maybe
maybe i need to find something that gets
me angry bad
road rage not as in how it plays out i
mean i don't cut
somebody up and drag them out of the car
and beat them to death with a tire iron
right but i don't carry a gun in my car
for the purpose that you know there's
sometimes it might end up like a game of
mario kart
if i had it there i'd just be like
shooting people's tires and stuff
right i know i think about that same
thing as far as you know i don't want to
carry
a gun with me in the car because if i'm
alone in the car i'm just with my
girlfriend in the car actually even
sometimes when i've been in the car with
you
you know i'll kind of like use some
choice loud words it's true
drives like an idiot but you know if my
son's in the back seat with me i'm like
oh look at that bumpu head
right right like punch him in the bottom
you know that kind of
thing but now i think that road rage i
do have that i do have a little bit of
trait of road rage because i'm
the perfect driver except in rocket
league well
i do have a little bit of road rage but
i
try not to let that affect me i just say
you know there's another person that
doesn't know how to drive and just kind
of move on
i guess i'd probably get angry if that
person
that was a bad driver hit my car right
that would make me angry yeah but you
know if it doesn't really affect me if
they do something stupid and i was able
to swerve and miss
and not damage the car and move on i'd
get over it pretty quickly
at the moment i think if anybody hit the
car it'd be like ah there's a chance to
get a new car
you know through insurance but i think
if my son was in the car and somebody
hit the car
then there'd definitely be some uh
murdering going on
sure and so i see your point and i agree
with you the only difference for me
would be what car am i in at the time
yeah
certain cars i would say okay no big
deal
other cars i'd say okay now i'm really
angry right so
yeah this question is a bit of a uh
silly question
what motivates you to work hard now if
this was like
entrepreneurs or somebody serious in
business this would be a great question
but for us it's not really
yeah brilliant as such what motivates
you to work hard and the answer cannot
be
avoiding eviction
well my answer was actually going to be
kind of close to
that yeah it's like being able to afford
beer
well not being able to find everybody
yeah
what do you mean feed everybody yeah i
care rahman's still pretty cheap and
plus there's a thing called welfare so i
know it's not that oh i forgot about the
welfare
did you hear that the state of texas got
a bunch of
infusion of money into everybody's like
food stamp accounts and everything
and i mean depending on your situation
right it was like
three four five grand we're not talking
about a few extra hundred bucks
we were talking about a few extra
thousand bucks yeah and
of course what happened right after that
everybody was posting on facebook
i've got a thousand dollars on my wic
card i'll take
500 bucks for it and they immediately
was doing the two-for-one deal
and selling their food stamps yeah and
for like two or three days all the
grocery stores were out of food because
everybody was selling their food stamps
and then people were running to the
stores and buying all the good food that
you can buy off work
yeah and i i really don't like this
thing where
people say you know if you're on welfare
you've got these carbs that you should
only be allowed to buy specific foods
like healthy foods and all this stuff
because it's
hypocritical because if i had that money
and i was going to buy food
i'll just buy crap food with it i'll be
buying pizza and whatever else
so why why should you be in this kind of
oh they should only be allowed to buy
you know
gluten-free bread with no flavor and
you know sugarless and stuff so it
so i totally agree with you there
although i know
you know when you're walking through the
store and you're looking at like the
meat counter
and there's like these nice cuts of
ribeye steaks and everything and it says
wick approved i'm like
really i mean are these people eating
better than i am because
i'm looking in the clearance like buy
one get four
free deal and somebody else has a wic
card and they're getting
you know choice rib eye steaks and
taking them home well i remember
watching an interview with some surfer
dude
in california back maybe
the middle of last year right before
bernie sanders dropped out
and this was still when people were
deluded enough to think that bernie
would actually have a chance to get in
and you know bernie's all about the
minimum wage and all this and increasing
you know the amount of welfare to bring
it in line was a
as if you had a job at minimum wage
and this surfer dude he'd never had a
job since leaving school right
and he just got welfare the entire times
from when he was first eligible and his
white dude with dreadlocks
and he said that oh yeah i get lobster a
couple of times a week and then so i'd
like a bit more money to be able to buy
you know a few things here and there and
that's the problem you've got these
welfare children who they don't want for
a better life because that's all they've
known and it's you know say if you grow
up in ethiopia and you're eating
some crap and sometimes you do some
ramen noodles you're like oh this is
pretty fantastic well that's true
you know if you're eating like steak or
lobster or chick-fil-a or whataburger
and then all of a sudden you have to
switch to ramen noodles you're like oh
not this crap
right so i mean it's all relative so you
get these people who've all they've ever
known is like
buying budgeted food then they're okay
with it and they're okay with that
standard of living
it's only once you've already known
better that
you know it's kind of bit of a downgrade
yeah what's that old saying you know
you don't know what you're missing until
you actually
you know get in the middle of it to
actually get shorter and snappier than
that i don't know what you
missed yeah no i'm pretty sure that's
exactly
it's yeah yeah you don't know what
you're missing until you actually
accomplish it and witness it and do all
that
i'm pretty sure that's what's the needle
pointed on a pillow
somewhere it you know or you can't miss
what you've never had that might be nice
more applicable in this situation yeah
what was it that gretzky
said you know you miss a hundred and
percent of the shots you don't take
or something like that that was proven
not true
yeah yeah what is your favorite thing
about your career
i like the fact that my boss leaves me
alone
unless there's a huge problem going on
and it's when i turn up so yeah well it
there's that
second favorite yeah but uh no i mean
the one thing that i do like about my
job is you know i
i can do my job i'm left alone it's like
hey here's what you got to do
now go do it and tell me it's done right
i don't have somebody
sitting on my shoulder all day saying
what are you doing
what are you doing here i said when is
this dude blah blah blah blah you know
the micro
management thing i couldn't deal with
the job that i was going to be
micromanaged in
yeah i think it's pretty much the same
with me that
anything i kind of do i am
close to being the expert in the field
of it
and so i don't really have anybody
telling me oh you need to do this
differently or maybe you could do it
better
by doing it like this because believe me
if i could have found a shorter cut
oh yeah i would have found it yeah well
in in
honestly to kind of add to that i mean
that's one thing i like about my job i
try to take something that's going to be
a big pain right and i'm like okay
so let me do the work now to make this
easier later so i can be lazier later
and get the work done now
to where everything's easier later on
and so i can make it as simple as
possible
to where i don't have to put so much
work in later on yeah
and i have that ability in the job that
i have now that i can actually do that
so
that that's a good part about that yeah
what is your biggest complaint about
your job
other than having to do the amount of
work which you've just
narrowed down to having to do i don't i
don't really think i have
any complaints about my job other other
than
the fact that you know i deal with
people all across the country
and so when i have to like set a meeting
i guess it's it's not really my job it's
more of a complaint about
time zones yeah i really hate time zones
because you you ask somebody you know
hey you know can we do this call at
11 o'clock yeah and then i realized well
they're eastern time i just set it at
noon maybe they want to go to lunch am i
interrupting their lunch or whatever or
is it too early for the west coast or
whatever especially being right in the
middle
so i just i don't understand why we
can't just all go off of
the greenwich mean time or whatever and
we all have the same time
and we just all do that yeah i think
because everybody over you know on the
other side of the world they can just
work in the dark
because i don't care we ought to have
prime time in america because i'm pretty
sure we invented the clock
yeah i just like
it when you're trying to be friendly
with a girl in california
and she's a little bit supernatural
so then you get friend-zoned in the time
zone
in the twilight zone that's a lot of
zones
yeah that's the uh and you know try for
of terribleness there
injection somebody's living in a
different time zone plus you might get
away so
yeah not the best combination yeah and i
don't i don't like zones i don't like
zone defense in football either
so there's another zone that i had just
containment yeah
i kind of said that to avoid my answer
about this my biggest complaint about my
job is that i get paid enough money
because again if i could get paid enough
money
the thing i would do is retire earlier i
remember once actually eddie murphy
he was covering the um rodney king riots
in one of his stand-up sketches
and it came to when rodney king got the
payout
you know
and eddie murphy was saying he said i
don't know but this is gonna inspire a
lot of people to disobey the law because
i'm just gonna
get out that car swig a fifth
start resisting arrest and just be like
beat my
ass beat my ass now right and make sure
somebody's filming it yeah well you got
to remember one thing about the rodney
king
deal versus everything today right way
back in those days
it was rare for somebody to just happen
to have a video camera right
i mean now we all have video cameras
built into our phones so it's easy to
film stuff
that was rare that somebody actually had
that camera with them to actually
film the incident and then of course it
was far away it was like a
a bank security video or whatever today
if you look at it compared to the
ability to shoot
4k video on your iphone today yeah
and it was one of those videos actually
i think unless people would actually
admitted it was them
in the video it could have been like the
vulnerable snowman true or something you
just couldn't tell because i don't think
any of the faces were clear
i don't remember any of that being clear
yeah i think it's the exact same model
of video camera that all the ufo footage
is filmed on
yeah a potato right yeah
right what is your proudest
proudest accomplishment there's too many
esses in this yeah
i don't know i guess that i'm still
alive
i haven't somehow killed myself doing
some of the stupid stuff i've done
you know riding a motorcycle with no
helmet and jumping out of planes and
you know all the other ridiculous things
that i've done and i don't exactly take
care of myself but
somehow i'm still alive and i wake up
every morning so i guess i can be proud
of that
yeah that probably answers a completely
different question kind of like how am i
still alive
but i think my priority accomplishment
when i said there's too many esses in
this we've ever printed this out there's
like three s's in accomplishment
uh what's mine he did misspell that look
at that was
i didn't notice until i said it actually
uh proudest accomplishment
um probably along the lines of what you
said because it's a shock i'm still
alive some of the stuff i did and not
just as a kid i mean like when i was in
my teens and in my 20s i mean i did
dangerous stuff like getting in
shopping carts going to the top of those
uh
car parks you know where they have the
um spiral
exit ramps from the top to the bottom
yeah and i'd get in a shopping cart
my friend would push me and i'd go all
the way down there now if a car was
coming out of one of those levels at the
same time or a car to stop for whatever
reason
you know i'd have been yeah in pretty
much trouble because i remember the
barricades around this one
close to college we used to go down it
was maybe only about three foot high
which was about level with the top of
the car or right the top of the cart was
a little bit heavier so if i had spilled
out i'd have
just like plunged oh yeah imminent doom
yeah
i look at some of the the dumb stunts
that i pulled
you know once again thankfully both of
us grew up
long before social media you know
because we would have been
filming this stuff even though i i did
do a lot of videos and everything with a
buddy of mine
and you know we'd film us doing stupid
stuff but we didn't run out and
immediately put it on youtube
or you know the internet or anything
like that well it's a good job we didn't
have tick-tock
because oh yeah we'd have taken those
challenges oh absolutely
we complain and say oh kids today
they're so stupid they've eaten tide
pods and
you know done the hold your breath to
your pass out thing would have been all
over that we've done it live on air and
filming it and probably put it on
youtube
yes absolutely well remember when that
chip challenge thing came out
we did that we didn't even film it but
you got those hot chips and we all sat
there and ate those hot chips that night
the remember that one chip challenge
thing
you bought that box that had like 10 or
20 or something in them and you kept
like every
everybody that would come over to your
place like oh hey you know here's this
chip i'm like what is this box and it's
like oh everybody you know that comes
over i give them one of these chips and
almost killed our friend eric yeah you
remember
erica eric had a tough time actually
ironically out of the three of us he was
the only one who actually has any
medical training to have saved his own
life that's
true bad happened well we would have
been sitting there
as eric was passed out on the floor and
you'd have said well we need to help him
i'm like no dude i'm filming this you're
gonna have to take care of this
well i was trying to film it from the
other angles so neither of us would have
really been much use
well yeah but that two camera angle
video
would have got a lot more views that's
true yeah yeah so see we're always
thinking if we'd have done it side by
side we could have maybe
done it in 3d as well oh yeah or that
virtual reality
thing yeah yeah you mated reality yeah
you could have actually been there with
everybody
and friend eric anywhere on any level
surface yes
that see i wish we would have done it
that way
instead i think one of us filmed in
portrait and one filmed in landscapes
and then we deleted it it's like 30
seconds later in the bathroom yeah
that's great next question what is your
child now you've got
lots of children four that i know of
what is your child's proudest
accomplishment
so i just guess choose your favorite one
which is like
mason or connor because the other two
you're kind of 50 50 about especially
the girl
well you know well i was gonna say that
you know
my my daughter my oldest she just
actually 18 yeah
no no she's still 17. but she just
graduated high school so it you know and
i always look at that and
i'll get back to that yeah so she just
graduated high school
about to go off to college but she
graduated early
and rather than just sitting around
doing nothing like most kids did that
graduated early waiting to go to college
she actually went
and she's gonna go into college almost a
sophomore
but i gotta back up and say i remember
when i graduated high school
and graduated college and my parents
were so proud of me
and i never understood why they were
proud of me
because i said well why do you think i
was
going to school like i was going to
school to graduate
so that i look at it as being done i
don't really look at it as being an
accomplishment it's
like a check box off the list it's like
okay you're supposed to go to school
then you're supposed to graduate then
you're supposed to go to college and
you're supposed to graduate then you're
supposed to go find a job
you know almost like fight club you know
when they're talking about that
right that's how i kind of looked at it
until
i saw my daughter go ahead and graduate
high school
and i still had that feeling that yeah
this is what she was supposed to be
doing
but i'm proud of her that she actually
got it done but i hope you still
called her a big nerd and wedgied her
for like weeks after
not yet yeah i haven't yet maybe get
online and cyberbully here a little bit
yeah a big nerd
yeah big nose big nose she doesn't have
a big nose but yeah you might as well
put it out there
yeah just kidding starts getting
paranoid about it yeah i gotta come up
with something i read a
comment once this guy said
i managed to save 30 a week on groceries
by
telling my weight conscious daughter
she's starting to look fat
hmm so there's some advice for you
people out there pinching the pennies
out
i have to find it difficult getting
employment after covert yeah
but you say that's advice for people out
there i'm
i'm writing that one down in my head i'm
thinking i might be able to save some
money on groceries by telling my family
they're all getting fat
and they need to stop eating so much but
your boys they're pretty cool they've
got some pretty cool
interests and pastimes you know like the
guitar skateboarding xbox now with your
daughter it's a little bit different if
she comes to you and says
dad can we talk i should imagine your
first reaction should be why we don't
have anything in common
yeah that's true yeah go talk to your
mother yeah yeah i mean i
really haven't
yeah yeah and yeah i'm definitely not
going to do that
i don't know anything about boys no no i
don't know anything about that
so uh yeah i mean i obviously have a lot
more in common with my boys than i do my
daughter
but uh you know she she's a good kid she
could have
she had friends that got into trouble
and all that and i'm glad and you know
she didn't do any of that
or she was smart enough not to get
caught maybe she was the ring later and
i just like a whole bunch
i'm not saying she didn't do anything
wrong i'm saying she didn't get
into any trouble lying like you said she
never got caught doing anything because
i had a lot of dumb friends growing up
that
they couldn't jaywalk across the street
without a cop
sitting there watching them and they
were constantly getting into trouble and
constantly going through all that
i did stupid stuff but never got caught
i think that'd be one of those things if
my son
suddenly turned around and showed me
evidence that it managed to steal
like 100 million dollars of bitcoin
online
i'd be like son we shouldn't really do
this
but it seems like you've got away with
it so we're going to sit on the money
and i promise you that we're going to
spend at least three percent of this on
good causes
to have like make up for this huge
online heist we're not going to give the
money back because
look no we might want to get and i might
get in trouble
so let's just sit on it to the heat
clears
and we'll go to something yeah and
figure out where we're gonna live
in case of uh i think my son's proudest
accomplishment
is really get to be a genius at every
electronic device in the house
because now he doesn't need to ask me to
do anything put on his favorite show
get into a certain app i told you even
when he was about three years old
i had to disconnect like my debit card
credit cards
from oh yeah devices exactly xbox
because he kept buying stuff on the app
stuff because he was smart enough
at that point because he was kind of
hyperlexic and could read
that he knew how to purchase extra stuff
and he'd just click on it and i left him
alone for one afternoon
and it downloaded something like about
30 episodes of mickey mouse clubhouse
from the store and it costs must have
been like about 90 bucks
oh wow and some of the episodes weren't
even really that good so i felt
well not only that but so what roughly
like three bucks apiece for these
episodes right
yeah it was 2.99 so
did he actually watch all of them or was
it like
i'm gonna buy this one and then he
watches it for like two minutes and says
oh no this one sucks and then he goes to
the next one and buys it well the worst
thing about it is i think
all but about five of those episodes i'd
already illegally downloaded for him
anyway via bittorrent so he could
already watch him on the big tv
he just wanted them on his device right
just like purchased
okay so i don't get that
somebody's got to explain that to me
why why is it that you have like
you know um like in this instance right
you have the ability to watch something
on tv but then you choose to watch it on
your phone
my kids will literally sit in the living
room
the tv the big screen tv will be
off and they'll be watching youtube on
their phone
sitting on the couch holding it yeah i
don't understand that why would you not
want to watch the bigger screen
when my son is a little bit different
because they'll have it on the big
screen
and then he'll like it on his ipad
and also if he can get away with it have
it on my phone as well so he'll have it
on three different screens and he'll
kind of like dj
it you know have a second delay between
each or i'll try and synchronize it all
but also he likes to change location
about every 10-15 minutes so he
watches it around the house or outside
or well but
okay so so the moving around location
thing i totally get
yeah but if you're gonna sit there on
the couch in front of the tv
and then hold the phone and watch the
video i don't understand that
i i really don't get that right but it's
not just my kids i mean this is a
popular thing that the people do and
yeah
don't get it so this next question
obviously proves mark from luton and his
wife they should probably cut this one
out
what is your favorite book to read
i don't know i think i've only read like
three books in my life
yeah i guess it's got to be the
godfather that's
i've read the godfather the hunt for red
october and parts of the bible
and not counting like cat in the hat and
dr seuss books
that's really the only books i've ever
read definitely the
bible but i don't think for years i've
really read
much of it because from going to church
so much growing up
and as an adult that
every time they kind of start going into
theirs i pretty much know that verse
anyway
and so you know a lot of people will
take their bible to church especially in
texas and open it and read along with
the pastor which
now is stupid because it's always on the
screen right yeah
all the churches but even then it's like
well why just listen to it
yeah but okay so i'm i'm gonna say i
gotta disagree with you a little bit
here because the church we go to
they do that same thing right they put
the the verse up on the screen
and it's a huge screen right right but
there's sometimes where i'm like
man i'm getting old because it's kind of
hard for me to read this and if i had it
right in front of me
i wouldn't have to try to squint and
look at that screen but i'm pretty good
at listening though i don't really need
to follow along reading it
no i don't either yeah but i've always
thought that was a bit strange
yeah but sometimes though when when
there's something up there that's being
read to you
you know whether you got you know the
book right in front of you or it's up on
the screen
it's kind of like the reason why i don't
like
foreign films and i don't really like
movies that has a foreign language and i
have to read the subtitles because it's
like
there's words on a screen i'm going to
focus on that
so you watch a movie with like subtitles
or whatever
and you miss most of it because you just
for some reason just focus on the words
on the subtitles
rather than what's actually on the
screen at least that's me
now i actually used to like watching
foreign movies when i was about
12 or 13 if they came on tv late on late
at night for one reason only
well because you like the french no it's
oh
that you had a good chance of seeing
some boobs
oh okay 12 or 13 you'd sit and watch
your movie for
yeah but double an hour two hours late
at night you know 10 o'clock at night
your parents think you'd be in bed and
you'd be watching this movie just on the
off chance because you saw one a month
ago where
right you got a bit of side side
cleavage side boob or something
well but that was different though it
was always different
in europe
england i think it got to a point where
you could show boobs past nine o'clock
at night
if you gave a warning you had to have a
warning that this
show contains unity or topless
you know business it's kind of funny you
bring that up because
netflix right now anytime you you know
watch a netflix show or whatever
they always have you know the rating of
the show and
now they put the reason why it's rated
the way it is right
and then there's some that were rated
years ago
by like motion picture association of
america or whatever
and so they put their rating up there
what cracks me up
still to this day is one of the reasons
on why they rated something smoking
yeah yeah i see that and i'm like oh
smoking
okay that that's really why we're ready
to cover it they have like smoking drug
use alcohol use
that's like really well okay the drug
use
i can understand that the alcohol i'm 50
50 on
you know the violence the language
totally get that right yeah get that
home anyway
but smoking yeah like it
we took something that was just
commonplace for
everyone and now it's bad to even show
it just like what disney did
if you go to disney world or disneyland
or whatever they went through
and photoshopped all of the pictures of
walt disney
and photoshopped the cigarette out of
his hand but
that was normal i mean it right those
people smoked
yeah so why are we trying to raise
pretty much in the 50s and 60s you go
back to those tv shows and you
especially like you know even in
interviews
you know they'd both be there smoking i
mean i've never smoked in my life but i
don't care if other people smoke and it
doesn't offend me it doesn't influence
me and i don't think
you know if you're if you've got a show
on which is supposed to be for mature
audiences anyway
and the kids shouldn't be watched it
shouldn't be watching it that anybody's
going to be
sitting there thinking yeah i think i'm
going to take up smoking right and you
look yeah yeah
i just watched this show and now you
know what i know
nothing about tobacco but i'm going to
go ahead and start smoking because i
watch this show i don't know we're
smoking i don't know what the percentage
of people who
went out and started their own meth lab
after watching all of the seasons of
breaking bad but
yeah well you know there were sure
wasn't too high yeah but you know there
was probably some
it's probably something they were like
hey we can figure this out even though
we have
zero chemistry background or nothing you
know if
walter white can do it i can do it i was
a little bit tempted i'll be honest
but well but let's be honest wasn't
there kind of a
influx of like meth lab explosions and
everything
soon after breaking bad came along it's
like hey we can go on the internet we
can figure out how to make the reason
though
it's because people weren't going on the
internet to see the steps they were
seeing what
was on tv and not really following the
instructions you know what it's like
when you see um
you know a quick advert for ikea and
somebody's put together a chair
and then you get a chair from ikea and
you think well how hard can it be to put
together a chair right
and so you get everything out the bag
you put it together and then you left
over with like nine
pieces and then you sit on it and it
breaks and one of the chair legs
you know impales you in the back i think
a lot of people thought
oh it's got to be pretty easy then and
took shortcuts to building a meth lab
where in reality
you know to get good quality math
apparently you've got to have a pretty
good streamlined process and
you know a little bit of knowledge in
chemistry not that we're advising
anybody to start a meth lab yeah
but that was kind of the message of the
show
yeah i mean if you if you think about it
if you're if you want to be a drug
manufacturer
that was the message of the show this
chemistry
teacher was the one that was able to
make the really good meth and
any time you know he had to teach what
was the kid's name
bobby i think and that's not right but
we'll call him bobby
you know he had to teach bobby how to do
it but even he couldn't get it
perfect yeah because walter white had
his own little method of how he had to
do it and he had all this knowledge and
so on and so forth
if somebody wanted to create a meth lab
that should have been the message of the
show
look go to school get a chemistry degree
then you can cook math really really
well well i was actually listening to a
joe rogan podcast this morning
and his guest said that it's a
misconception from people that you know
the dea
in the united states have access and
have all this you know storage of
fantastic drugs he said
that's actually completely untrue he
said what they actually have is possibly
the worst
drugs on the market because the people
they bust
tend to be idiots a lot of the time and
they have stuff cut
you know with other things and it's you
know stuff which isn't safe or it's very
poor quality and so the dea
do not have stored in warehouses and
aircraft hangars the best drugs on earth
apparently it's the stuff which is more
likely to kill you so
anybody out there thinking that a heist
of a dea drug
containment facility is a good plan
not a good plan apparently now that
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