The Wolf And The Shepherd try to figure out whether or not mail order brides are still a thing. The good news is that it is still a thing.
welcome to this episode of the wolf and
the shepherd today we're going to be
talking about mail order brides
so this means you could fill out some
kind of
form and get a bride through the mail
right
yeah i'm a bit disappointed actually we
didn't reach out for sponsorship
opportunities for this episode
yeah we should have we should have
because come on this is ripe for
exploitation this topic
yes yes and we could be the vehicle we
could be the uber
for that exploitation yeah but i think
uh aren't there
already apps for that like uh tinder
and all that or are they not really
looking for marriage
that's more getting inappropriately
familiar with somebody you don't really
know
in your local area within a 15 mile
radius mail order brides is like
people you know a little bit further
away oh so
this has nothing to do with all of the
alerts i keep
getting on my phone that says there's
all these single women within five
minutes of me
that want to meet me no that's the
kidnap children alert which comes
through
oh okay yeah i gotta fix my phone
what i really love about the whole
concept of the mail order bride thing
is that originally it was by mail okay
you had people who would read a
classified
in some personal section of a newspaper
obviously you were paying per word back
then right so you had to be
thrifty with your description of
yourself so people were reading this
description
woman not got more than
20 kids pretty good shape
look for man to marry
and that be it and then there'd be like
a po box and somebody would think
yeah she sounds pretty good yeah so
whether you're going on you got instinct
or your level of desperation
that's what you're working with because
there were no photos back in those days
when i remember seeing those
ads all text all text and like i said
they had to be thrifty because you were
paying like about 15 cents per word
and for some countries depending where
they were posting those classifieds from
i mean that's like about three days
wages to like post one ad
sure so you weren't eating for three
days to be able to post that ad just in
the hope that
somebody would be i don't know wowed by
your description
you know where they actually got that in
newspapers it actually came from
telegrams i think because i remember
reading something
about telegrams from western union say
and you would pay by the word and so
that's where
almost that infancy of texting came
about because
people would break up the sentences and
they
wouldn't actually be grammatically
correct so they could save money it's
like that
deal in the office where i think it was
kevin who said you know
why use more word when few word matter
you know things like that i did actually
think the first time
i heard of mail order brides i think i
was maybe like seven or eight
because i kept seeing this stuff in the
back of the newspaper
in the classified section and i honestly
thought they sent the brides
through the mail right right that's what
i thought right but
i was old enough at that point where
relatives had sent me
like gifts for birthday or christmas and
i realized the mail was unreliable
sometimes it would come like a week late
or sometimes not at all and i thought
wow that's really a bit of a crap shoot
isn't it because if you send
like a wife or a potential wife through
the mail
and it may or may not arrive you know
that's a bit of a disappointment if
you're kind of like waiting on your
doorstep for the mail to come and then
it didn't come doesn't come and then it
turns up and then you've just got to pay
basically burial costs because she's
been dead in the mail so that's the way
my mind was working at the time because
we had a really crappy mail service in
england
probably online with like usps here so
so would you say the postal service over
in
england is worse than the us postal
service here
or about the same well i think when i
left
fedex had come into play i think a few
other actually other private services
so you know the government agencies
you know normally have to up the game
once the private sector gets involved
right because can you imagine how bad
usps would be of ups
and all these other ones dhl hadn't come
into the game
true you know and it was the same thing
in england because ours was called
royal mail the royal man yeah well it's
just like you know in
in america if you put the word federal
in front of it it sounds kind of
official and like you
expect a certain degree of service which
we've learned
means yeah it's probably going to be the
worst service out of you know all the
competition especially the private
competition
but it was the same thing in england
anything whether you have the word royal
in front of it
it means it's going to be the least
efficient among all of its competitors
so it's been
maybe like 22 23 years since i've used
the royal mail in england but it was
terrible
i i wonder if that's why federal express
kind of changed to fedex yeah so they
took that
federal world out there and it's a
stupid word to use anyway i mean you
have
you know like the um federal reserve got
nothing to do with the government
they just put the federal in front of it
to make it sound efficient
now everybody's learned if the
government is involved it's likely
not to be that efficient true you know
it makes total sense
yeah so if if we were going to send our
show notes to where we've talked about
if we were going to send those over to
india
would you choose the royal mail or would
you
choose the united states postal service
assuming now that both
of those entities actually deliver to
india
i don't know i might go the message in a
bottle route
might have more chance of getting there
yeah but it's gotta float all the way
around
africa and what is that the cape a good
hope or the cape horn or
something down there and then float all
the way over to india so you think we'd
have a better chance
the cape the cape of the good horny hope
um yeah
you're pulling out pulling out all the
names you've heard from like geography
30 years ago in school yeah exactly i
don't know
actually well no we love our own our
indian audience so i'd actually pay the
extra money and send it via fedex
yeah okay so we're we're going to go
with fedex
if you had to sell yourself right in 20
or 30 words
imagine you're a lady right you didn't
tell me this was going to be one of
those woke episodes right where i've got
to identify
all right as a different finder no
you're now going to change gender for 60
seconds which
i'm gonna exploit okay and maybe put you
in a
if you can um identify as a 16 year old
female at this point
i can get you in the local high school
female boxing
championship and you can win a trophy
yeah but
that would require me to have physical
exhortation
and have to actually move around i i
don't like that yeah
plus you might get punched in the nuts
yeah that's not gonna work
if you were a woman and you had to sell
yourself
and i mean discriminate yourself set you
set yourself apart
from all these other people what in 20
or 30
words could you say without
outright lying do you think you could
say
if you're trying to attract a male with
a hefty income you've got 20 or 30 words
and you can't say
i have big boobies and i'm up for
anything because remember this was like
years and years ago right where you
weren't allowed to say those things
probably i always know what i want for
dinner
i'm only going to put one outfit on and
never change
and i'll never all right you're out of
words you're out at work oh did i
already run out of words
i'll say this was a this was a
hidden stump the shepherd oh my god no
you're getting a little bit crappy with
this stump the shepherd
stuff now you would not get any replies
probably not
no you do have to remember we've talked
before
about you know online dating and how
the whole catfishing thing right right
and
people getting to choose one out of 4
000
photos which is a misrepresentation of
their true self
yep this you had to sell yourself in
between 20 and 30 words because
most of the classifieds actually used to
place a
limit on the number of words because
they had to be able to fit
a certain number of these ads in a
specific section in the newspaper
because it's not like digital print now
they actually had to plan ahead
and so you know if like oh we're placing
nine of these ads on thursday
somebody had to sketch out on a piece of
paper where their stuff was being
printed and so you could only have
a limit of so many words right so
here's mine right if i'm selling myself
gotcha all right
and now you're you're i'm a woman yeah
yeah for like 30 seconds
so um the time's rolling right
here's your 30 seconds okay now
i am woman okay so i'm going to stop you
right there
you you've got too deep of a voice to be
a woman so
this is my text no this is text no
speech to text
oh yeah okay i am woman
i am voluptuous i am submissive
i am obedient i can cook i like
naughty time that's it you can't tell me
back in the old days maybe like
not when it first originated but like 40
years ago
you wouldn't be enthralled by that
description well
i think you should have i not large
i'm not large why not large yeah because
now you you're getting close to that 30
word limit there yeah
counting the words in it i'd sign up for
that it was more than six words yeah i'd
sign up for that if i was
desperate maybe i don't know when you
said though i
am a woman i just expected you to next
say
hear me roar but you didn't say no
that probably would have turned some
people off way back there was about 15
years before the whole roaring thing you
know before women
suddenly decided hold on a moment yeah
what does roaring have to do with being
a true woman
yeah but in that where katy perry sang
that song was
right after that yeah but that was only
about 10 years ago oh
well how long ago were these ads but but
let's be honest
katy perry i mean it's all right being
katy perry
you know and saying oh i'm gonna roar
it's kind of she didn't really need to
roar to get attractors does she i don't
think so she doesn't need to does she
maybe she does now yeah that's the last
time you heard anything out of her well
the um demon that was inherent in uh
miley cyrus and britney spears left them
and actually entered uh katy perry i
think cause remember she cut all her
hair off and went a bit bonkers for a
while
yeah and and then she kind of got back
to normal
yeah that same demon must have jumped to
somebody else
yeah we're not keeping track of meghan
markle
no i think that's a different demon is
it yeah yeah
that's legion yeah where do you think
the whole kind of mail order thing came
from
laziness no it didn't really come from
laziness it came from necessity
necessity to reproduce
the essence of man sure you you can
say it that way but look necessity was
the frontiers people you know traveling
across right there you go
that's it that's where it came from the
frontiers oh you're kidding
no because um they were out there and
they were doing jobs which
you know were dangerous no women were
out there doing those jobs maybe
there were some but i don't know i
didn't look into it that much i'll be
honest with you you know they're out
there
getting some good coin for the dangerous
work they were doing but
you know it's hard to find a woman and
so they would actually
write letters to churches back in the
east
um put ads in newspapers and magazines
saying you know kind of
looking for a woman am earning good
money
i won't beat you please reply and so
these
things would be read out in churches
it'd be in the church bulletins it'd be
in the newspapers
and women if they you know kind of liked
it the description in getting 20 words
whatever
would actually send a photo of
themselves
you know to these guys on the frontier
well but let's back up let's let's
imagine that you're one of these dudes
out there on the frontier right
we've already talked about modern day
how the royal mail
and the us postal service doesn't really
do that great of a job
you gotta think they do a better job
today than they did
way back then so can you imagine writing
this letter
to a church handing it to some dude i
guess in the pony express and saying hey
deliver that letter
and now you're sitting around waiting
for months on end
and you see the pony express dude and
you say hey do you deliver that letter
he's like oh man dude i forgot can you
ride another one
and the whole time well it used to be a
really it used to be a relay they didn't
have one pony like going
1500 miles used to be a relay race you
know
are you sure yeah no i thought it was
one horse i just wrote it just went like
the whole time
you just went like the full 1500 miles
yeah
yeah that's where racehorses were just
to and from so just like a train
you just have like michael the horse who
goes from wherever
you know to like all the way to new york
and then back again like three times a
day
well it's something like that well i
mean no they were fast
no i think there was a relay but you say
that remember that episode we did about
um
where we don't agree with the whole
concept of horsepower
and a measurement for like cars and
stuff because
i have driven past fields of horses and
some of them seem to spend most of their
life like
asleep right you know you've got to be
annoyed if you get
like a horse for your pony express and
he's just like
slow as all get out or he's got dietary
issues and he's
stopped like every 30 minutes for a five
minute poopy
you know that your thing is not getting
there so you know you've got you're
working on the front line in the
frontier right
everybody else has got their mail order
brides and you're still waiting
because you got the wrong horse in the
pony express
right maybe they should have used
elephants you know who has elephants
india india yeah yeah they're different
elephants over there though what do you
mean from where we've got african and
indian elephants
differences the size of the ears yeah
but what about the american elephants
what you mean the ones in the zoos yeah
they could have delivered the mail
i don't think we had them then actually
oh
well that's too bad yeah because because
think about it but they're not that fast
though are they well let's be honest
yeah but that they're reliable but slow
yeah they're they're more reliable
and not only that they could carry so
many more letters so you'd need fewer
elephants see if i was in charge of the
pony express i'd have been like no let's
do it
yeah elephant express yeah right yeah
you need fewer
animals right you can take many more
parcels along with you
don't have to worry so much about the
horses and look if you've ever ridden an
elephant i mean i
i rode an elephant one time in the
circus you know years well
when i was a kid yeah yeah when i was a
kid i went to the circus and you could
stay
yeah you get to do the little elephant
rides you know they're nice gentle
people
or gentle creatures they're not people
no they're not people they're
general creatures and you could just
take a nap i mean that sounds like a job
you and i could have had
back in the day riding for the elephant
express delivering mail
i don't want to spend like six weeks
taking a letter
from the frontier to new york and then
having to go
back again to deliver that same letter
then yeah nobody's interested mate
maybe birds like storks storks
used to look deliver babies well right
yeah excited but then they stopped
delivering babies so why didn't we just
repurpose storks
into delivering letters because of the
union stalks started forming unions and
they became too expensive to use
oh is that why you don't see that many
storks anymore well that's why they
don't deliver babies anymore they price
themselves out of the market
it's just easier to give have natural
childbirth right so it's their own fault
it's yeah that's why you don't get them
anymore in the frontier days right
what ended up actually happening was
they started running out of females
so this whole frontier thing these men
would uh
write these letters get them sent you
know by the horse or whatever
and hoping women would reply with a
photo which you know let's be honest at
least they can catfish you because
it used to cost quite a bit of money to
get a photo taken those days
right so you only had one chance it's
like okay ethel
there might be a chance somebody wants
to marry you keep your mouth shut
because you're missing nine teeth at the
front there
just put your hands by your side don't
look over enthusiastic nobody likes a
desperate looking woman
even in the 1800s and we're going to
take one photo of you
and we're going to send it and just hope
that
you know you get a diamond the other end
of this and
so it would get back and what actually
ended up happening is
they ran out of women and this is where
the
overseas thing came in and so
they'd actually start sending these
letters
overseas and so you'd actually get
international mail order brides so they
started running out of domestic american
women who were probably like dinah
boredom or something and um
and we're still talking about the same
time yeah frontier yeah yeah they ran
out they ran out of women
wow so now the letters are going
by boat i mean i would think if you
talked about the storks and everything
but ducks would work well no this was
this this was pre-union i think they
were still using stalks but i don't know
how much kind of a distant stalks get
because they're kind of big
goofy birds i don't think they get more
than about 30 miles in a flight before
they have to refuel
right which across the atlantic is you
know yeah there's no way they can make
it but and
a duck or maybe a swan you know they're
bigger they could swim across but let's
assume for a minute that we're actually
putting this mail on boats right yeah
because i know there were boats back
then
you know there were boats back in the
1800s yes yeah yeah
well there were boats in 17 yeah so
there's got to be boats in the 1800s
and also 16 000 bc but we won't go into
that
so there was an imbalance yeah between
the number of women available
domestically and the number of men
seeking them
and also you know men would actually
turn down
surprisingly some of these photos so
they'd wait six weeks for this photo to
come back so ethel
do actually did her best pose maybe
looked over enthusiastic or
smiled and you could see like you know
the light you know
shining at the back of her throat
through all the missing teeth
but do you think like ethel in in your
example
was maybe answering multiple ads oh
well yeah i mean it was the same
equivalent of like today's internet i
mean it's like
cast a wide net you're gonna catch more
fish yeah so i'm pretty sure like in the
bulletin all these women were just like
replying to everything
sure so can you imagine like you're
sitting there with your buddy on the
frontier and you're both waiting for the
same woman
right in in the mail comes in and so you
open your mail and you're like oh check
this chick out
you know and your buddy's sitting on the
other side of the fire and he's looking
he's like oh
she's ugly there wouldn't be anybody in
their right mind that would ever want to
be with this woman
and he goes and he throws it in the fire
and the guy sitting on the other side of
the fire is like
yeah that's the same picture yeah i was
about to write her back
maybe there's something wrong with me
well i don't think this is
official but i actually think most of
the deaths on the frontier were not
caused by
ineffectual unsafe equipment i think
most of it were like fights to the death
between men who were expecting to marry
the same woman they all like pulled out
the photo and it's like hold on i'm
marrying her
right and like yeah yeah and then you
got the dude that's at the chuck wagon
over there and he's cooking everybody
beans for dinner he's like
man i got that same picture too i'm
gonna poison them yeah
see mine yeah yeah see we're taking care
of the revisionist history and making
sure everybody knows exactly what
happened in history
yeah now i wonder how much catfish
catfishing actually went on in those
days
because you know if i wanted to you know
if i was a woman back east
now you're talking about like 1800
somewhere in the 1800s
no but you're not talking about like
fishing like catching fish right
no i'm terrible at that well me too yeah
i'm good at catfishing though remember
we had that episode i told you how i
spent about three four years
yeah that's right so so pretending to be
a lesbian online
yeah so you got like ethel right but
maybe ethel has a sister named gertrude
and gertrude's kind of pretty
so she has gertrude take the pictures
but she puts her name on them that would
be the 1800s
exactly so you sign up for it and while
you're waiting
six weeks to get replying a photo and
you get this photo back and it's like oh
yeah
gertrude who is you know ethel's sister
you get photo of her
and you're like oh yeah i could i could
have a bit of gertrude that would make
me happy maybe i don't know
right and then you know you wait another
six weeks you send the reply back saying
yeah
ethel yeah you look lovely and all that
and
you know get let back from ethel saying
yeah i can't wait to meet you and this
goes on for about a year and a half
right and then you arrange to marry so
he makes all his money
gets back and then there's ethel
and he's looking at her thinking you've
gone downhill in the last 18
months i'll be honest with you love yeah
but you look a bit of a state if i'm not
lying
sure but then she could use the excuse
well hey that's what i look like 18
months ago
and you fell in love with my words you
fell in love with my heart
not the way i look and then this guy's
been out on the frontier for so long
he's like
you know what yep i'm good i'm ready
that's fine yeah looks like same dress
in the picture because i'm pretty sure
everybody back then
oh they were what they all wore that
same stuff yeah i think it was made out
of
a potato sack it's like white college
girls now i mean they all wear
pretty much same thing i mean i'm pretty
sure it's the same you know back there
in the frontier days they were
all those long dresses so yeah you
didn't see the uh
obscene ankle and that kind of stuff
right
i honestly don't know whether it would
have been better to be a
eunuch back in those days as a male
rather than playing that lottery of
you know trying to get a wife here i'm
pretty
pony express i'm pretty sure i'm going
to stop you right there and say i'd
rather not be a eunuch
no matter what time period i live in
really yeah
now you can have all that you want but
i'm pretty sure i don't want to
well yeah they didn't have xbox back
then so i mean you couldn't have
anything else to do i mean right
pretty much it you just live to make
some money and
find a lady procreate yeah yeah i mean
i'm thinking back to a history of the
world part one
and you know all the eunuchs there i
they look like they were miserable
so yeah and munich i'm going to take a
firm stance against being a eunuch
all right what would be your
expectations back in those days
of a woman well obviously uh can't be
worried about how she plays xbox because
the xbox wouldn't exist back then
right your wife doesn't play xbox anyway
does she
a little bit simple games yeah not not
anything that requires like accessing
netflix
yes yeah yeah i guess i would say my
expectations
would be a woman that would be able to
take care of the house not die
dirty the shack not the house mate all
right you don't have no house but the
cottage can i use the word cottage or
not
to england small home small homes only
the hobbits and the english living
cottages oh
okay so shaq okay love shaq the love
shack
yeah so sweeping the dirt floor that's
got to be a must
yeah we got to have smooth dirt on our
dirt floor yeah i'm going to
say she needs to be able to cook
whatever i go out and shoot so we're
probably eating a lot of
rabbits and ducks squirrels squirrels
yeah
some squirrels too uh poor squirrels
i wonder if you're gonna need a
squirrel's tail pretty sure you're kind
of nice yeah yeah
and so she'd have to be able to do that
not die
during childbirth and not die during the
winter because i mean
talk about having to replace a wife
after every winter
it's hard not to get women to die during
the winter nowadays let alone back then
yeah they get cold yeah it gets like
below 72 degrees and like oh
and this is the most common used phrase
worldwide by women i've heard because
i've heard this in multiple languages
when it starts getting cold in the
winter
oh my feet are like blocks of ice
ah that is true don't they they all say
i've heard french women
german women english women american
women all use that same phrase my feet
are like blocks of ice now
actually love they're not not literally
are they no let's be honest
they're not literally like blocks of ice
you jog my
thoughts here because they should be
good at building a fire
women can't make fire yeah they can't no
they can it's biblical
oh it's in the book of ecclesiastes
oh women are crap at making fires
that one's somewhere in the middle yeah
they don't kind of normally do that one
in church
nowadays because they don't want to
offend like half the congregation but no
it's true women can't build fires
have you ever seen a woman build a fire
but if a woman can't build a fire how
are they supposed to cook
well you've got to make the fire for
them and then they cook upon the fire
yeah but if i'm out hunting and then i
bring stuff home
yeah yeah you've gotta make the fire and
you've gotta skin it so basically all
she's doing she's got the easiest job
she just sticks a stick up its arse
and through the mouth rotates it while
you're getting washed up cleaning all
the blood off you and then she serves it
for you and you eat it
what a raw deal that is well i know well
back then you had to put in most of the
work oh
okay yeah i mean you know it's a good
thing we have things like ubereats and
grubhub
right because i don't think i could
handle that well
you have to remember the um it was a
mutually beneficial relationship
in terms of needs and wants okay so
you know for the woman you'd wanted to
be able to cook clean
pop out some babies and like you said
not die in the childbirth
part and still maintain that cooking and
cleaning
you know during that period of like not
quite giving birth and then giving birth
you needed to bounce
back within the first day because let's
be honest you don't want to be making
your own sandwiches
yeah no because otherwise you might as
well just have two wives
and the you know demands on the men was
just be like
you know get us enough money so we don't
starve to death and don't die of the
black lung i think that was it those
were the only two
kind of yeah no that makes sense and
that's why life was so much simpler back
then yeah so go
a little bit off topic which i know we
don't normally do but adam and eve
okay do you think adam was happy because
it was the only woman he'd ever seen
i'm pretty sure he was yeah i mean if
that's all you know
well god created her so she must have
been pretty hard well
sure i mean i don't think god would have
let him down he wouldn't let him down
you know yeah that that wouldn't have
been nice he wouldn't have given him
like a
i don't know rosie o'donnell right
we all know god has a sense of humor i
mean the duckbill platypus right
but i don't think at this stage of the
game god is sitting there saying
hey let me pull a funny one on yeah poor
adam and
give him an ugly wife not he wouldn't do
that well you think about it you talk
about the desensitization
okay of like the unrealistic
i guess expectations upon women
so they used to claim like 20 or 30
years ago and that kind of died off
that you know men because they see so
many images of pretty girls in movies
on tv and magazines that you know their
expectation for a woman
that now for us to find them attractive
it has to be
you know checking a lot more boxes than
it did maybe 50 years ago
oh it not even 50 but no adam didn't
have that adam didn't have this
like yeah this is not up to my standard
i mean
you know how about three ribs what can
you do for three ribs yeah
well adam didn't have any standards
because he didn't even know the
difference exactly yeah
right i mean that's that's one of those
beautiful things if you stop and think
about it to be in his shoes and not have
to worry about those standards because
there were no standards right like you
talk about with the
uh the way things are right now
where you have people that can you know
photoshop their pictures and do all that
and
you have this idea of what that
beautiful person and i use person here
because it goes
for men the same way i mean there's
plenty of men out there that are doing
this
and i use the term men loosely for the
ones that actually do that
but everybody can get confused and get
led down the wrong
trail so to speak i mean one thing you
know going from all that
when eve got kind of duped by the
serpent
right about eating from the fruit of the
tree of life which by the way let me go
on the record to say i am against
anybody having snakes as pets right
just based off that story in the moment
yeah yeah i've been fond of them since
to be honest
so do you think the moment that happened
she had this
old crap moment and she started planning
immediately
on kind of misleading adam into getting
to
make the same mistake she had and
you know it wasn't just a conversational
thing she actually used a dark hearts if
you know what i mean to try and convince
him to kind of
uh you know eat the fruit well remember
you know the bible was written by a
bunch of guys right
so they probably left that part out
where eve
basically told adam hey this is all your
fault and adam's sitting there like well
wait what did i
think she guilted him into eating it
absolutely
absolutely so she wouldn't try to like
hey if you eat this i'll
kiss your cheek or something well there
could have been some of that too you
know because it must have been easy back
then to be like really
but you also know that once all that
happened there was probably an aside
conversation when they were cast out of
the garden of eden that eve said by the
way you know this is all your fault adam
and adam sitting there scratching and
said like you know one day i wake up
and yeah you know here i am the only
dude here
god's nice gives me a wife next thing
you know i'm kicked out of my home where
everything was good
but how is this my fault and then he
just
says okay well i guess it's my fault
because it's easier to just accept the
blame and move on and have that constant
argument do you think it was the first
example of bait and switch i mean she
started off naked and then she stopped
then she ended up wearing clothes
yeah that's true yeah but also i mean i
know in the bible it doesn't actually
say
that the fruit of the tree of life was
an apple
but i got thinking and i thought well it
can't be an orange
because the serpent isn't peeling an
orange is he it's not going to be
convincing if he's trying to sell
the orange to eve eve's going to be like
hold on mate you don't have any arms how
do you know what this tastes like
yeah it had to be something like an
apple or a pear
like yeah something it bites straight
into so she's like really does it taste
that good in the serpents like oh yeah i
eat this
six times a day it's fantastic yeah not
convincing with an orange or a coconut
right right yeah so um is the coconut of
fruit
i don't know pretty sure i doubt any of
our listeners know either so no matter
that no coconut is yeah it's a fruit
it's not vegetable is it
it's not meat so it's got to be a fruit
those are the only three food types
other than grain and stuff no it's
vegetables because you get
what do you get the fruit and vegetable
group you got the bread
fruit vegetable meat no grains grains
bread is a grain
thing yeah okay made out of vegetables i
think
oh dairy it's coconut milk it's dairy
group
because you buy coconut milk all the
time so a coconut has
dairy yeah it's in the same refrigerated
section so yeah all right so coconuts
are
coconuts dairy right coconut is jerry
i'm glad we sorted that out
so did you know that there is actually
male male order
husbands okay so when you say male male
obviously you're saying m-a-l-e i don't
have tourette's
i mean male 1 m-a-l-e and then m-a-i-l
yeah yeah there's actually men as well
who women can get
um and i actually used to get because
obviously now on the internet
it's you know kind of equal but yeah
back then you
women could actually write and say hey
you know everybody's gone to war and
died and stuff and
my womb is going to be barren in another
six years so you know
i need a man i think we can go on the
record we're
equal opportunities so we're not glad
oh i thought we were that's the biggest
lie you've told in like 64 podcasts no
we're not
oh i thought we were no we know i
thought that was
on our mission statement don't we have a
mission statement somewhere
uh yeah it's blank oh i was supposed to
do that wouldn't i
no that was one of the things oh okay
all right so scratch what so
an ad is a man right right man
likes food like sex please don't
complain too much
that's it that's all i'm sending out
i'll be honest with you you know that's
why i'm just hoping somebody is
truthfully going to reply
yeah but honestly that's one of those
things kind of like
a beethoven symphony right it just
stands the test of time
so that ad would work today just like it
would have worked 200 years adam adam
could have actually used that one
yeah if like god said all right adam
what are you after mate
and adam could have said like food like
sex please don't complain too much that
would have worked then
yeah but he we knew he liked food
he didn't want any complaining but he
didn't know what sex was
well um i punched a hole in your logic
there
you weren't expecting that curve ball
from the shepherd
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so i suppose if we're going to make any
progression in this we have to move
onward from adam and eve and the
frontier times right
so if we jump forward to the 1990s which
i know is a huge
period but well wait we get we're
skipping the 80s there's so much stuff
that happened in the 80s
there's really not i looked it up but
wonder woman
well yeah but in aladdin
no we've gone over this aladdin was a
disney movie
all right the story of aladdin is back
centuries before the whole flying carpet
stuff did not take part in the 1990s in
iran
or in well persia it used to be called
persia right
so in persia there were not flying
carpets in 1990
this took part a long time before then
no i don't believe you disney was not a
documentary
disney aladdin was not a documentary i
don't believe you well
i've looked it up so i didn't want to
cover 150 years
without any you know kind of i i guess
not mentioning any changes okay
because literally before the internet
the mail order bride stuff was exactly
the same in terms of classified
right up until the internet so still no
pictures
well have you seen any um
like well you remember like old
newspapers the quality of the pictures
right you know unless you had one of the
expensive cameras back then
you know any picture you did a headshot
i mean can you remember like the
yearbooks i mean
yeah you know you had to sit still there
for like goodness knows how long for
them to take a half decent photo of you
if you've got somebody who's trying to
find a partner through a newspaper
i don't think they're paying top dollar
to get the best
photo representation remember all those
newspaper ones
if you look closely you could actually
see those kind of dots those pixels
making up the photo right
i i think there's a name for that but
yeah yeah i know what you're talking
about yeah so
i mean it really didn't change right up
pretty much to the mid 90s
it stayed the same for 150 years wow
that that is crazy to honestly think
about that that
didn't change how so many things change
very quickly that that kind of stayed
you know
static yeah but one thing which did
change
is american men became sick
of american women hmm i think so where'd
you think
so where do you think they looked not
england because
no english women are even worse no but
we were sick
english people back in the frontier day
that's why we fought the war yeah
exactly they didn't ask for english
no i'm gonna guess
eastern europe no i'm english so i i
will say this
and admit it english women come out of
the womb
moaning about stuff not like crying i
mean
well actually yet there's a joke about
that i can't remember what comedian said
it is that
english female babies come out of the
womb they cry not because they're
gasping for breath it's because they're
whining about something
that the food was insufficient in the
womb and well because it was english too
yeah well
they were the mother was probably eating
a bunch of that curry stuff you try to
get me to eat all the time
i don't think that's it right so
american men
mid-90s actually actually late 80s
to the mid 90s before the internet came
into play they started
answering these ads from these agencies
which suddenly popped up out of nowhere
and they were
trying to get bribes from russia ukraine
belarus
you know the other uh eastern european
countries it's the ex-soviet bloc
what did you just say eastern europe i
guess that one right
yeah give me some credit i guessed it
right yeah but you think eastern europe
is anywhere east
of france yeah yeah
no it's not like germany nobody wants to
get mail order bride from germany
why not have you seen german women uh
just the one from austin powers
who's that ah that prowl
whatever her name was oh yeah and and
did she
check all the boxes uh she did for dr
evil
remember that's where the kid came
that's true yeah
i mean to each his own right i mean we
we're all entitled to our preferences
yeah i i would not sign up for well
actually now i say that
on instagram i've seen some pretty
german women but i've also
seen a dog riding a bicycle so i'm not
really gonna
what kind of dog i think it was a basset
hound which surprised me because they
got
short legs yeah but his little ears were
flapping he's riding in the wind and he
seemed so happy
well i'm sure he was yeah i don't want
to ride a bicycle
i haven't done that for a long time i'd
i'd rather the dogs ride the bicycles
yeah
i don't want to wear spandex and hold up
traffic why'd you have to wear spandex
to ride a bicycle i thought that was
required now
yeah it's put on the goofy little helmet
that's true now yes
outfit yeah and then you have to hold up
traffic i saw actually um
two people riding bicycles the other day
and they were wearing masks
while they were cycling and they were
about i don't know maybe 20
30 yards apart so they're outside in the
sun
riding masks well they're embarrassed
that they're on bicycles
so they're trying to one of them was one
of them was actually wearing cycling
shorts that's spandex as well
yeah that's bad yeah so women
quickly after the fall of the soviet
union and in the eastern bloc
thought well you know what we don't have
to
live here work in the salt mines
you know in the mills and you know work
for one dollar
a day or whatever and decided that you
know
okay there might be a better life in the
western world
and so all these agencies popped up
which tended to be
either american or english based
and they would act as a go-between
between these
you know women in the um you know east
and the western world and actually set
up
and you know they would handle all the
communication so they'd have a central
p.o box and so they would pay for
expedited mail
so it wasn't like you sending a letter
to some woman in the ukraine
you know that that get all their stuff
and they'd send all these letters but
again it was the same thing that like
you know one woman would probably
receive like you know 50 letters and
one man would probably apply to marry 40
women so that is that whole kind of like
throwing the net wide thing
sure you had agencies that was the first
introduction of agencies then in the 90s
you got to like the entrepreneurial
spirit though of those agencies that
they figured out a way to make money i
mean we sit here every time on the
podcast trying to figure out a lazy way
to make money
those dudes back then they had it
figured out all we got to do is run down
to the post office
get us a p.o box and we'll collect all
these letters and we're gonna take a fee
for this
so gotta appreciate their spirit there
that entrepreneurial spirit
now did good it's difficult
now to actually find in russia
women who are suitable for western men
because
women in russia write for about i think
the last 10 15 years of demographics
40 of them are in higher management
positions
okay managing what like i don't know
business
factories i don't know but um isn't that
all russia does is make like
weapons in vodka well yeah most of the
country yeah okay
but anyway they're still in senior
management
positions which means they're kind of
like overseeing other people okay
so they're either angry because they're
in the military portion they're making
weapons of war
or they're drunk because they're making
vodka well
one of those yeah but foot but they earn
still
typically only 40 of what men do for the
same job okay
okay so when you're trying to apply for
one of these brides
like you said they're already really
really angry because they're earning
less than men
and also they're in these senior
management positions so they're bossing
people around
so i mean it this is a recipe for
disaster because
i think a lot of the reason now that you
know western men
and maybe you know like north american
men you know look to the east is because
they want a little bit of a break from
this stereotypical american woman it's
just like that lenny kravitz song
american woman you know and all he
starts bitching about american women
they want a break but these russian
women sound
even worse yeah i know that makes sense
especially
the one industry that i kind of left off
and
i want to apologize if we have any
russian listeners we don't we looked at
the stats earlier there's nobody from
russia who listens to us yeah but maybe
they
will you know search on google and find
this one uh
that doll stacking thing that's the
other thing that russia does
yeah what's the name of things yeah yeah
yeah
yeah i don't know if that's still a
thing and i think they're produced in
china now
are they because yeah they do them
cheaper oh of course
yeah so but you're also talking about
back then so maybe they're still making
those stacking dolls and everything
maybe those were the target women you
know the ones that were women
yeah well the women that were in charge
of the doll stacking companies
that that's the one i would try to hunt
out outside of vodka and
nuclear missiles i mean if you had to
pick one
it's like okay look wolf you got a
choice
you got three industries you're gonna
pick from nuclear weapons
manager vodka manager and
yeah you can't get any free vodka and
you can't get any free nuclear weapons
or doll stacking person
you'd pick the doll stacking person well
i don't know i'm not allowed to have any
contact with anybody outside of the
united states is
involved in uh
no weapons so i'm not gonna have to go
with vodka
but you can't get any free vodka and she
can't make you vodka
oh she'll know how to make vodka why is
she in a senior management position if
she doesn't know how to make vodka
because she's sitting there behind a
desk all day dealing with
all kinds of hr crap about people
complaining about being sexually
harassed or
misgendering them this is worse than
marrying somebody from new york
so i've actually been learning quite a
lot recently about
mail order brides which obviously now is
over the internet
i've been watching a show with my
girlfriend called um
90 day fiance where
you know people are going through these
agencies online
and trying to find you know a husband or
a wife
overseas and they apply for a visa
they bring the person to the country and
they have 90 days to get married
right so you know obviously there's
different criteria if i'm a man
and i'm getting a woman from overseas
you know i'm trying to maybe get
somebody who
i wouldn't normally be able to get in
the united states which is somebody
who's like
you know 25 who thinks red lobster is
like the treat of a lifetime
and you know finds me wearing the same
pair of underwear for three days in a
row a turn on
on the women's side of it it's pretty
much the same thing you've got
you know women who narrowly were
disqualified from my 400 pound life on
the tlc
channel who are trying to get somebody
from africa who's like
22 who doesn't really have a job but
you know she's getting i don't know
welfare or something and so she's using
that money to get husband and that
that seems to me pretty much surprises
the show but one thing i have realized
is that the women from russia on that
show within about five minutes
i'd be like absolutely no way they start
whining the moment they get off the
plane and i
i renamed that show 92nd fiance because
that's how long it would take me to
decide
no i don't want this anymore so the
whole premise though
of the show is basically the mail order
brides but they
just brought it into the 21st century
yeah wow yeah that sounds
but it was stereotypical like pretty
much every woman you know every woman
who would want to get somebody from
overseas but
all of these women on here pretty much
chose men from africa
and all the men shows women from
poverty-stricken
ex-soviet bloc countries thinking yeah
if i take her out and you know buy us
some fries from mcdonald's she's gonna
think i'm
like the richest man in the world type
thing but they come over and
they start whining immediately well now
are they
are they choosing them like looking at
pictures or something like that yeah and
then they get to meet them or
yeah because they're getting off the
plane and they
like say yes no yes no well it's no i
mean it's
no they don't they don't send like 30
people over they walk off the plane and
they're pointing at them it's not like
the first episode of the bachelor or the
bachelorette
you get rid of like eight of them on the
first episode okay no i mean it's not
like getting off the plane it's like
return ticket go back right now so
there's a little bit of pre-selection
yeah no you no they're not getting on
the plane unless they've been selected
oh okay see i didn't know that i've
never watched this but again it's
is is so much obvious catfishing goes on
because
every single story on this show it's
about where
oh you didn't explain you'd been married
four times before and had nine children
or you know you didn't explain that you
had type i
type a diabetes and i'm gonna have to
spend you know 96 dollars a week on
mars bars from costco to just keep your
bloodshed the levels
normal you know i mean that there's a
lot of catfishing goes on which makes
for the entertainment
part of it yeah i mean it's the same
thing it's just they're
just responding to ads through these
agency websites and saying yeah i like
the look of her
do you think she might be happy with me
do you think the women
or the men for that matter that are the
we'll call them contestants on the show
i i don't know if
that's the right pretty much is okay all
right so we'll call them contestants so
do you think they get
paid to actually be on the show
oh you know they do you know they do
they have to be there's nothing real
anymore i think
originally when you had the first big
brother type thing
you know this what was it called was it
big brother on mtv the first
kind of um when they went in the house
thing that was the real world
real world yeah real world i think the
original
kind of shows like that first out
yeah they chose people who had distinct
and
uh you know opposite personalities from
other people so you'd get the maximum
amount of confliction
in the household but i don't believe any
reality show nowadays i think it's all
contrived
oh i don't think there's anything
genuine anymore they're paid to come on
here and it's the same thing you read
about you know shows like the bachelor
in the bachelorette which
you know is very popular among you know
our female population here
that everybody on there has some story
behind how they got on the show it's
really not
people genuinely applying to the show
and getting selected randomly
right they get people who are gonna have
you know a lot these people you do the
research they already had like you know
30 000 followers on instagram and all
this stuff and it's people being
genuinely
deliberately antagonistic to make for
entertainment purposes i mean i don't
believe there are any genuine
outside of um animal planet
any real you know reality shows anymore
my dad loves dr paul oh
so does my son yeah yeah the animal
doctor dude
i've never watched it but my dad loves
dr paul yeah
the only other one that he likes that is
kind of spun a little bit more reality
because you can see some things are
staged but it's still
real yeah is the erwin family you know
the
australians oh yeah yeah steven died
from
the stingray years ago but my dad still
loves watching
can't remember the wife's name but you
know his kids yeah his son and his
daughter both kind of following his
footsteps
and it's like i've i've watched a little
bit of that with him and i've said
okay i know some of this is scripted but
at the same time it's still
real right you know yeah they're gonna
go ahead and they're gonna
catch this shark and they're gonna do
this
you know test on this shark or whatever
and she's asking some scripted questions
and
to the shock yes and the shark answers i
mean it's a great show
i've never seen a talking shark until i
saw this show
but you can tell it's still real
you know they're legitimate people like
steve irwin used to go out and he would
do stuff he'd like oh
my then you know there's a lizard there
in there is that your australian
yes it is it sounds just like an
australian oh there's a lizard and he'd
go
get the lizard and he'd catch it and
he'd be like oh if he bites me i'm gonna
die
but let me just poke him in the eye and
see what happens
yeah i didn't understand a word of that
well that's because it was you know
australians that authentic australia
yes i learned that when i was over there
years ago right
i think part of the problem kind of
circling back with the whole russian
bride thing is
because of the culture in russia and the
influence of the church still there
that 30 years old if you're a female in
russia is considered
over the hill and pretty much
unmarriable you're like an old maid
you know you're put out to pasture at
that point at 30
whereas like you know in the united
states at the moment it's like that's
when a woman's kind of like
depending you know trying to decide a
career
she's going to be a strong independent
woman she don't need no man
then three or four years later she
decides she does need a man and wants to
settle down and stuff
yeah so basically what you're saying is
the russians have it right
well yeah like if you're 30 you're over
the hill right
and the big problem in russia is the
life expectancy i think
mainly due to the vodka and the nuclear
uh missiles and the uh
stackable dolls stackable dolls yeah
that and you know i think the radiation
from the
nuclear weapons factories is the average
life expectancy for men is 64
as of 2019 in russia that's pretty bad
that is very but for women it's 73. so
do they have social security in russia
all right
because they wouldn't even get social
security checks right aarp's missing out
on some money as well over there over
there yeah
absolutely but for women it's 73 so they
can expect to
you know pretty much outlive men by 10
years so if they're
over the hill by 30 and
you know they're going to outlive the
men by 10 years anyway they figure
well let me go for a western man you
know because they
think that oh yeah women are still
finding themselves by you know like
early 30s they've gone through one bad
divorce and all their stuff by making
stupid decisions but
they're still marriable and so russian
women think oh i'm still at the prime of
my life and all this
and but something has bizarrely happened
within the last like say five or ten
years
i remember looking at a deal with the
women from the golden girls right and
i remember seeing that show when i was
younger oh i have an inappropriate
question about let's go on
but if you remember the women from the
golden girls you always say
okay well they were kind of older ladies
but
that show in their age in that show
was the same age as women like jennifer
lopez
and some other like high
up there kind of celebrities that are
still very very
beautiful and it's it's completely
different now
like that a woman can be in her 50s 60s
who was it uh who's the the british
chick
that uh narrowed it down too much yeah
no the british chick she was in
pearl harbor dark hair oh man i can't
think of her name
british woman with dark hair with some
pearl harbor you talk about um
you're not talking about the daughter of
um stephen tyler from aerosmith
no no she's not that old she's she's
much younger than that
i i can picture right now but it you
find out she's like
you know in her mid 50s and that's
what when i was growing up a woman in
her 30s look like
right kind of fast forward at this time
now
because it was almost like okay woman
hits 50 she cuts all her hair off
she dies at some funny color she starts
wearing pant suits
and that's what it was nowadays
they're out there in thong bikinis and
dancing around like they're 20 years old
well this is a whole it's extremely
confusing yeah
there's a theory out there which
actually i came up hang on hang on
kate beckinsale there's the name oh yeah
yeah
yeah and yeah oh my goodness yeah she
must be like about 92 by now
but she still looks really good but no
there's this theory out there called the
centralization theory which actually i
came up with
um and this was actually for um
something i did in college
and it was about how
girls through the media sexualization
and also the access to clothes
where fashion models kind of like
try and you know attract these kids into
wearing more adult type clothes that you
know they're trying to make 12 and 13
year olds look like 18 year olds and 20
year olds
but also on the other end of the
spectrum they're selling clothes to try
and make 55 year olds look like 30 year
olds and so
they're trying to push this central pool
of identification whereby yeah if you're
like
12 you can look like you're 18 if you're
50 you can look like you're 30
and and it's all about this
attractiveness and then on the other
hand they want to kind of
push this kind of like girl power thing
of all women shouldn't be
you know recognize judge based upon the
appearance but
hold on you make your entire money
whether it be like
vogue l all these magazines and all
these fashion houses
purposely on sexualizing underage kids
and women who should know better of
trying to show their ass at age 55
and then complaining about the fact that
women are sexualized
not judged by their character other than
their appearance and so i came up this
series
which was a centralization theory that
it was aimed at
men not discriminating by women based
upon age
and so that you know this this whole
thing i don't think the ageist
movement came in until about 10 years
ago
you know and then it was quickly
followed by the
you know biggest beautiful movement and
so it's now
kind of very you know faux pas to judge
a woman by her size
and her age and that she's capable of
anything
and you know what this whole people who
are trying to push this movement
are the people responsible for it in the
first place and like i know that's a bit
of an aside
but men had nothing to do with this men
were never the people
who pushed the sexualization of young
girls
who tried to push 50 year old women
trying to look
younger we weren't the people who pushed
their stuff
you know we didn't create this
artificial unbalanced environment
where women were constantly having to
spend eighty dollars a month on line
fillers for the under eye
makeup before they go to bed at night
they weren't pushing
thongs for 12 year old girls you know
this is
this is an environment created by
women in this industry and then blamed
men for it so that's my rant over on
that yeah and
i don't want to dwell too much on this
but i got to add a little bit of color
to that
the opposite side of the spectrum with
men there is nothing more embarrassing
than trying to look at a guy that's in
his
let's say 40s i'm wearing skinny jeans
that is exactly
wearing skinny jeans wearing wearing the
little bedazzled jeans
wearing shirts that don't fit him all of
that stuff
it at least women can get away with it
because it's like okay
you know women take more pride in their
appearance than men do but the man that
actually
tries to really take too much pride in
their appearance
and try to appear so much younger it
reminds me that steve buscemi thing
where he's
got the skateboard on his back and he's
like how are we doing fellow kids
it's so embarrassing it's embarrassing
to men and men just don't
realize how embarrassing it really is
yeah i don't want to take this point to
say i know
in a lot of our podcasts we joke about
women and some of it can come across as
sexist but
do we apparently according to some of
our emails
um but you know i mean i love women
women are fantastic
but i do think that a lot of the
problems
women face in society are created by
women whether it be jealous women
women who just want to make money and
exploit women
and then you know dislocate place the
blame
elsewhere get the focus pointing towards
people who are not really
you know the apex apex of the issue or
of the problem and i think
you know that's a big that's a big thing
you know we talk about and we joke about
women moaning women whining about
things but you know to be honest i mean
if i think about all the things
my girlfriend whines at me about which
is a lot which is lot
she's probably right 90 of the time
let's go with 98. no i'm gonna go with
90 because she's probably listening to
this
and you know i mean i agree with it but
you know the thing is the expectations
placed upon what women want
and what men want you know haven't
really
changed women still want regardless of
how independent they are
you know and how long they go through
this struggle of i don't need no man at
the end of the day
we're wired to want companionship and
this was what this whole podcast was
about this mail order brides that people
would go
to these lamps to try and find a
companion whether it be the on the mail
initiation part
of sending these letters you know to try
and find a female or
female trying to you know respond to
these letters
basically we want companionship and it
doesn't matter what men
like about women what women like about
men and what we dislike about each other
we want companionship
and mostly we want companionship with
the opposite sex
and yeah there's things we don't like
and i think that's because
as we grow up mostly in the early years
of our life
our friendships are same-sex friendships
and we get used to liking things and
people agreeing with the things we like
and then all of a sudden
we're kind of thrown into forming a
relationship with somebody who's a
tiny bit opposite of us on certain
things you know that's not in our
formative years that's already when
we're developed and that's where it's
like oh women don't like this about men
men don't like this about women
but at the end of the day this whole
thing male order brides it doesn't
matter how many thousands of years you
go back
a man wants to find a woman a woman
wants to find a man and
you know again going the progressive
route i don't care if a man wants to
find a man
once find a woman that really doesn't
matter to me
right you know people want to find a
companion and that's this whole mail
order bride thing i mean it was it must
have been a difficult thing i mean you
don't want to wait six later
six weeks for kind of hey did you like
my photo
right and imagine the reply and it comes
back and it gets to answer the question
you know what it's like when you're
expecting the text and it doesn't answer
the questions you take so you have to
kind of resend it
absolutely imagine that by pony express
yeah my daughter gets mad if i don't
click the like button on instagram when
she posts a picture
and i haven't hit the like button on
that within 15 minutes
you know one of the things about mail
order brides that you have to be really
careful about
nowadays where you get them from okay
because like if you get
um i don't know maybe like a russian
brides or like ex-soviet bloc they don't
expect you to sponsor their entire
family to come over
right so say you got i don't know a
bride from the ukraine
you know you're not thinking all right
well you know a mother
her grandmother all her you know cousins
and all this are also going to look to
be
sponsored and you know all 15 of them
are going to live in your three-bedroom
house
but a lot of the asian countries
okay like philippines and stuff
southeast asian countries
their culture is that if a man marries a
woman
that the man has to be willing to take
in
that woman's immediate relatives like
mother
grandmother and everybody else to take
care of them so they all come and live
with them
okay so i'm out on that one not signing
up yeah i'm not signing up right i'm not
doing
i mean especially if it's like filipino
bride so it's like well
a 99 of the time there's small boobies
and i'm gonna have to look after a
mother and a grandmother for the rest of
life
which if they're sleeping in the living
room with the irritable bowel syndrome
definitely not signing up for that one
no no i i mean i was out on
having to inherit all that other family
i mean it's bad enough
when you haven't even met the person
you're supposed to be with
right right and then now all of a sudden
you have this entourage coming behind
them of
all these other people you haven't met
no well imagine that
like you know you you've got your
filipino bride over right
you're there in your bedroom do they eat
curry in the philippines no
they they foe that pho word i thought
that was thailand
well they might do it there as well it's
pretty much the same place
i don't think so it's called different
names but it's the same place and
guarantee it's just
thailand just make better plastic toys
for kids no i agree with that
right was it thailand or taiwan no they
make good toys as well but
chinese aren't recognizing taiwan at
this point i remember
them in hong kong they've got a bit of
an issue is now which one of them makes
the
toys for the mcdonald's happy meals uh
taiwan
okay yeah um good toys good toys yeah
non-poisonous paints and chemicals right
not
like the old days were remember the
smurfs
those first toys which came out they
used to be painted with lead paint
and so kids would lick and there was a i
think a lawsuit
right i don't know who produced the toys
but they would lick the smurfs hats
and the paint would come off but it was
made with lead paint and there was a
whole bunch of like issues with
this sounds like a problem for inner
city detroit
what because of their smurf fixation or
yeah
why detroit they're the smurf fetish
well
they're very close to canada so almost
canadians that explains everything yeah
so believe it or not not every eastern
country
i don't believe you is actually happy
about losing their females abroad
because
at some point you think one of these
countries would be like you know what
we're losing a lot of our
really good females overseas well um
in 2005 okay president of belarus
got no freaking clue where that is i've
heard of it and i know it's somewhere
over close to russia
he attempted to regulate marriage
agencies
which i'd set up in the country of
belarus
and he didn't want western men drawing
his country of their child-bearing women
well that makes sense i mean you got to
replenish your population right so he
was trying to do the right
to me i read that and i just kind of
like thought the movie borat
you know right yeah it's very similar
yeah no that makes total sense so
good for him yeah i'm glad he tried to
take care of it yeah so i mean we get
like okay we're talking today you go
online you want to file a mail
order bride right or now an internet or
a bride
who do you think is like really
dominating the space
i'm gonna have to go with an asian
country yeah like
china china certainly china yeah is it
china dominates okay okay we got a
problem we got a problem right now
because this podcast dominating
everything
well but this podcast that we've done
every time you've asked me a question i
think i've got it right and you haven't
tried to stump me yet
so i'm just so frustrated that
this is the most predictable podcast
we've ever had in terms of
answers there's no way i could have
stumped the shepherd on any of
uh the questions of this okay well
thanks for just destroying my
stuff yes there you go yeah now i'm not
exactly sure it's the case with chinese
people who don't actually live in china
right because i've got i've actually got
some friends
who you know who have you know their
second or third
generation chinese people love them
they're fun
and everything but i think so you're
talking about people of
chinese descent like they grew up in
china but have been migrated to another
country
no not really now i'm talking about
people i know who are chinese
and you know that maybe their parents or
their grandparents were originally from
china
not what i just said i don't know i
wasn't paying that close attention well
i know you don't all right
so no chinese people right so the ones
who have lived here
for a while or the ones who you know
maybe their parents or grandparents
moved over
and also the ones i knew in europe i
mean they're fun
smart intelligent people independent
personalities but i do
think you know how china is if you're
getting a bride directly from
china at the moment that you're pretty
much doing the equivalent
of ordering a mcdonald's drive-through
meal you know it's the same thing it's
like
got regulated haircuts they're all
indoctrinated with the same
education from my infant years and so
you're not really getting much deviation
right it's not like you're getting a
girl from wisconsin
and you could end up with a brunette a
ginger with no soul
but if you got a girl from wisconsin she
would be able to make cheese
yeah there's not much
cheese in chinese food there really
isn't is there
i don't do they have cows in china i
don't think so
don't they worship them over there no
i've seen to you oh
but the indians are the best so they
made the right decision yeah
yeah yeah but there's no cheese in
chinese food why is that
i mean cheese makes everything because
they don't they don't have cows in china
oh i wonder if we could import cows into
china
and now that the export mate remember
export is sending them
import and you can't import to china
because we don't live in china
yeah that's right but we could put cows
over there and then we can put them over
there what we're doing we put them on a
boat to china cows know how to swim
well maybe not china why not not
well a we live in texas what we're gonna
put them in the gulf of mexico like hey
put label on them sticky note hey go to
china
yeah but they can go through the panama
canal
not china well now they they go around
they're going to go back to your
original cape of good hope
yeah if that's the one against china but
that's what the panama canal was all
about
so they didn't have to go down there so
we can't hey
you've missed the whole point of the
original part of this podcast
we fedex them we fedex the cows to china
yeah but like you talked about before
with the mailing the women no no no no
boxes
hey have you missed out on the whole
thing from the last 10 years
if it fits it ships we just need to get
a big enough box doesn't matter about
the way
same thing with the women same thing
with the cows yeah
so we gotta find a really big box to put
cows in
yeah yeah i'll work on that next week i
think
so yeah i i don't honestly know
if you're getting a bride from china
whether there's going to be much
differentiation so i mean
you're definitely going to get a bride
because what is it like 1.2 1.3 billion
people in china like over half of them
are women and
you know they kind of kill a lot of
female babies there because they don't
like him and stuff
so if you're born a female and actually
get to grow up you're already lucky so
i'm figuring
right if i want a chinese bride i'm
going to have about
0.6 billion minus the ones that are too
young minus one's too old so maybe about
point three so maybe about 350 million
potential matches pretty sure they're
all going to have the same hair color
same hair length because again it's
regulated and they get beaten if they
don't follow the protocol
all have the same education so i mean
you know again it's like ordering a
mcdonald's cheeseburger you know it's
not going to be the greatest
cheeseburger on earth
but you know getting a cheeseburger
there's a bun
there's some meat and there's some
cheese and i think that's what it's like
getting chinese
mail order brides directly from china
except
there's no cheese in china because they
don't have cows well
outside of that i think actually
you know what the biggest problem with
this scenario is
that there's no cows no no that's not
the biggest issue
the biggest issue is because of the
indoctrinization
is then when they come over right then
calling you affectionate
names like baby and darling instead of
western capitalist pig
ah yeah does that be the thing it'd be
like
oh shepard you western capitalist pig
should be like oh shepherd my darling
yes i think that's gonna be the hardest
thing get them
not to like hate you right out of the
box which if we get them via fed decks
it probably will be
right out of the box yeah but maybe you
could just
kind of spin that around i mean you
could explain to them
that they could somehow turn that
word into affectionate just like we used
to say you know back in the 80s and the
90s you called a
a female a chick right but a chick is
like a little chicken and so maybe we
could
reinvent that word maybe western
capitalist pig
could be a term of endearment
especially when we get the cows over
there so they can have cheese
imagine how much better they would feel
you know you know there's a whole
you know there's a whole process right
cows don't just like
spit cheese out the tit well
no they have to have a cheese factory
right
yeah that's the next investment but
china is known for their factories so we
can
if we got the cows over there imagine
the cheese trade in china
it could be huge well you've got to wet
their palate for it you've got to
introduce it
to chinese people eat pizza
wondering in china pizza yeah
because i know it wasn't invented in
italy no it wasn't
yeah i don't think it wasn't now no i'm
pretty sure it was invented in china
isn't that where little caesar was from
wasn't caesar the
head of china and that's why we have
pizza now
no oh no i don't think so
i think they i think the chinese built
the uh website for laura says
that probably so
if you were divorced would you consider
a mail order in a net bride no what
no no no if i get well you don't go
anywhere to meet anybody so what do you
mean no
well no i just i i love my wife
and if i lose her then i'm just gonna be
by myself
well no that's not true you're gonna
move in the extra bedroom with me and my
girlfriend because then you and i can
play xbox every night
well exactly but i i don't need no woman
you ain't need no woman you're a strong
independent man that's
right right yeah so i think my deal and
and by the way
because i'm married and i have you know
my wife and my kids my rocket league
abilities are starting to slip a little
bit yeah
you you actually rank below me now i
know
like way below me i know so how to fix
that
so i think i mean i think i would
actually go that route
and i think my ideal would be like a
bollywood level
attractiveness indian woman because we
know those indian women
bollywood women are like beautiful
they're like princesses queens
i'd want a 25 year old like bollywood
level
attractiveness queen from india because
those women i mean they're smart
you know they can cook you know
yeah but they make a lot of curry over
there that's why you're thinking this is
why they're
that's why they're perfect for me but no
i said no i mean they're smart
they're beautiful sierra i think i think
i would get my bride my male bride from
india because they are
wonderful women oh i think that's where
i think sorry
i i check all my boxes yeah i'm just too
lazy
to look some of my boxes they check
twice well i i would just be too lazy to
look i'd be like
look at all this extra free time now i
can play xbox and family
so i think the greatest tale i ever
heard about
mail order brides all the such was from
a friend i had in england
he was an old dude he was like i don't
know
just old but he was an ex-world war ii
veteran you know the greatest generation
and
he actually ended up marrying a bride
from uh poland and he got married in
1946 like a year after the war ended
yeah
and um he got her over and i think he
got her over in like with about six
months and wouldn't
you know many immigration rules and that
and he said it was going
fantastic for about three months and he
got her on this
fast track earning the english language
and this is where things started go
downhill he said uh
and i quote she began offering her own
opinions which is a no-no
right would tell him no on occasions
again these
were his own words and she was terrible
at cooking proper english food and
didn't seem to want to take correction
on the matter
so he would tell us this like every time
we'd see him
you like he would moan about his wife
right
but he was married to her at this point
like about 35 years
loved the absolute crap out of her but
still had some complaints
but remember like in the end of the
season meeting he was supposed to be
giving out
trophies or at least like all the
managers and captains and
you know everything everybody do with
all these teams
and he stood up and he actually gave
their speech about
you know like unity with teams you know
team ship and all this other stuff and
he went off on this scene he said he
said about his wife
and you know there were a lot of young
coaches there a lot of young players and
he said um
if you get a wife from overseas they're
not all they're cracked up to be
he could have left it there but he says
um
if you're gonna get a wife from overseas
don't teach them english
because the moment you start teaching
them english they're gonna start
disagreeing with you
so i think that's that should be canon
in getting a
mail-order bride well i think we
explained everything about mail order
brides
as we typically try to do and we
certainly appreciate y'all listening
and we will catch you on the next one